Hey. I've ever told you guys my life story before.

Okay, so Toronto. I don't know if we have- May, 1970. Will, it's weird. Over here, I'm getting the red light for you.

Oh, that's enough.

They just want to start? Yeah.

Welcome to SmartList. Smart. Lies.

Smart. Lies.

Hi, JB.

Hi, you guys.

This is your new Relax Zone. Jb is in Brooklyn. This is how I picture it. Now, JB is now in New York for a little for a stretch. I pictured you going there Saturday, and I asked you because I was like, I know what you're... Just hear me out. You get to your spot, you drop your stuff, and then you find the spot on the couch where you're perpendicular to the TV.

That is so true.

Yeah, but I already scouted that, though, when I had to pick the apartment. I had to make sure there was an L-type configuration in front of the TV. Rest of the apartment, I don't care about it. It doesn't matter. I just need to know I've got a nesting spot.

Are you happy Are you happy with the apartment? I am.

Okay. I'm very happy. But I'm a soft guy. I'm prone to homesickness. It's lonely. I live with three incredible women, and now I'm all alone. But what did I have to bully my spirits? A pair of brand new slippers. The waiting for me in the apartment from Sweet, Sweet Shani. Yeah.

Is that true, Shani? Yes, I got Willy something for his ankles, and I got Jason. You did.

Did you get him some running weights for his ankle?

No, he got me that. He got me that thing to stretch my calves because I've been having my ham string issue.

I I sent you slippers because I know that- But, Shani, as I said in the text, you're not supposed to be well-raised. I know I'm not well-raised.

But neither of us are. We were raised by wolves.

But I think that's probably why, right? Yeah. But isn't it true, though? Because I was thinking about you being alone there, and I was like, Isn't it nice to have just something soft like that or whatever it is? I texted you, like, Slippers to me make a home. Once you have slippers, then you feel like you're like-Or an L-shaped couch in front of an L-shaped flat.

Sean, how come every time you say it's nice to Something soft you seem to grab on your belly and you just give it a nice...

The Cookie Pouch. I couldn't mail my belly.

The Cookie Pouch.

Cookie Pouch.

I miss it. How are you guys doing? What's going on back home?

Listen, The funny thing is-Yeah, so listen. I think I... Well, Will FaceTime me and I answered it from the ER, right?

Not just that. We had been taught... I had seen him for lunch. We had this lunch meeting with J You would have been there, but you were traveling. We had this lunch meeting. I don't know. 90 minutes later, I FaceTime Sean to ask him something, and he's on-He's in the back of an ambulance. No, dude, he's on a girney. He's on a girney in the hall at Cedar's.

Angel, what happened?

I go, What the fuck is going on?

Yeah, no, I got the A-Fib thing again, and you guys know. I talked about it on the tour, and that's where Jimmy Kimmel gave me the nickname of Paddle. I texted Jimmy and I said, Paddles is at it again. I took a picture and I texted it to Jimmy of me in my gown, all hooked up to the wires. Yeah, I just said, A-Fib. They put me out, they zapped my heart back.

For the medical Tracey's out there, A-Fib is what? It's just an irregular heartbeat?

Yeah, it's atrial fibrillation. Some people are in it all the time and they don't know it. I know when I get it, which is a good thing because then I can go to the ER.

Here's the worst part or the best part.

Yeah, your It's just right here.

Here's the best part. We're at this lunch. Again, business lunch. The guy says, You guys want anything? You guys want anything? He's going to bring the check. You guys want anything? You want a coffee or something? He said, I'll take a coffee. Our buddy Rick is there, Rick K. Rick says, I'll take a coffee, too. Sean says, as the guy's walking away. I'll take a milkshake.

It's noon, right?

He can't have dessert for lunch. It's noon, and he goes, Rick, just, by the way, just vanilla. I said, And if you've How do any paddles bring him to the table? Oh, no.

Oh, my God. I forgot you said that.

So 90 minutes later, he's in the hallway at fucking Cedar's on a journey, and I'm like, oh, fuck. Those gowns are beautiful. If he goes down from this today, and I've suggested the paddles, I'm really going to feel badly for a couple of weeks.

You feel the heart is racing. I should get to an emergency room because things might unravel from here. It doesn't fix itself. You need to go in there and you literally need to get a jumpstart to get it off.

It's like restarting a car or something. But they put you out, which is great. Of course, I always try to think of something. Oh, by the way, I read the thing. Wait, we'll cut out this air. It takes me to find this. This is worth it. This is great.

We can have some music.

We can play some music now. Sorry, mystery guest. Just hang on.Shon's got prompts.Shon's.

Got some stuff.

I said she starts going... Because this is what they do every time. Who's she? The doctor in the ER. This is what they do because I've been cardioversion. It's called cardioversion. I've had this done to me like 15 times. She starts gathering The anesthesiologist, two nurses, her, somebody else, I don't know. There was like five or six people there. They stand around the bed right before the procedure and they have to announce all this stuff. As she's getting into it, I say, Do you mind if I take over? She goes, Sure. I go, Okay, everyone, the patient's name is Sean Hayes. Date of birth is 6/26/70. We're treating him today for atrial fibrillation. We're going to use 10 milligrams of etomodate, and we're going to attempt cardioversion. Everybody okay? She's like, What? Nobody's ever done that. She goes, Yeah, now we're ready. That's how often I've had this done.Oh.

My God.Oh my God, you will do anything for applause.

What about maybe buying your own set of paddles?Oh.

That's a great idea.I know, I thought about it. Just doing Why don't you turn the garage into an ER?

Or just a section of it near the washer dryer where maybe Scotty can just bang you back into rhythm.

Yeah, they can teach Scotty.

Robert, my friend Robert has paddles at his house, like a whole thing.

What, truly? Wow. Yeah. All right. Well, so I'd love to circle back to, and I'm sorry, I guess we're going to get right to you, but I'd love to get you to stop drinking ice cream for lunch.

I know.

You know? How is that going to happen? Let's just start to just chip away at the maybe the problem before-How is that going to happen?

Dude, he's got the maker at home now. Now he's got the ice cream here. You forget.

It doesn't have anything to do with that. It's because I had a gummy. It's a long conversation.

Oh.

Yeah, I don't stumble into A-Fib.

If it was because of the gummies, we'd be talking to J. B. He'd be at New York Presbyterian right now.

As would the entire country, now that it's all legal and people are enjoying it.

But if you're prone to it like I am, then it's like a trigger.

Listen, I don't want to mention, I don't want to cut in because we don't have a lot of time because it's going to be air so far away from it. But instead of going there, I went to the All-Star Game and I coached Connor McDavid, and I was the co-captain with Connor McDavid. That's It was the hockey.

Get to Willy's All-Star Weekend.

It's really quick. I had a hockey nirvana. It was unbelievable. I finally met Wendell Clarke for the first time.

That was the first time you met him? I was shit. Tracy, Wendell Clarke is a very famous ex Hockey player that Will is such a fan of that your avatar on your texting is- I even know who he is.

I didn't tell.

Even Sean- He gets golf balls with just the 19 on him because that was Wendell's number.

17. J. B. Last year for my birthday, very sweetly got Wendell to make me a video and then sent me some signed stuff, and that blew me away. Cameio. Not even a cameio. No, he went and got in touch with him, and it was very sweet. Anyway, I saw him in an elevator. I said, I didn't I didn't expect that this was how it was going to happen, but I met him in an elevator, and it was just unbelievable. I got a coach. Well, a coach, fuck. I just stood there like a ding. They said, What do you want to do, coach? I'm like, Who wants to hear from a stupid actor? What are you talking about?

I'm just here to- Were you down in the locker room having to give a Rauwra speech?

I gave a speech. What I did was- To who was on your team? Connor McDavid, Leon Dreisaitl. We had David Pasternack from the Bruins. I had Brody Jenner. We had fucking Connor Hellebuck, the great the greatest goal in the league right now. For a pregame speech, Peter Lavuilette, the Hall of Fame coach, was next to me, and I said, Let me give the speech. I put together from a different sport all great quotes I strung together from Jürgen Klopp, my guy at Liverpool. I made a speech about it, and it was like, literally, it was ridiculous. I think I lost him at the end when I said, When I first came to Dortmund, and they're like, What? Dortmund? Anyway, it was fantastic. We had a great time, and I don't want to spend too much time, but it was so cool.

Wendell Clarke knew who you are.

Yeah, he did actually. I will say that. His wife saw that I was like, and she nudged him because he didn't see me. Then it was sick. Then I got to say to my dad, we walked down, I said, and I see Wayne Gretzky, and I said, Wayne, have you ever met my dad? He's like, no. My dad was like, it was unbelievable.

That's crazy that Wayne Gretzky was the whole weekend.

The little guy makes good. He comes back home.

It's funny you say that. The last thing I'll say is so able, you guys know my 13-year-old, he says to me the other night and he goes, Look, I'm going to check make sure he's doing his homework. He goes, Dad, I'm really proud of you. I said, What do you mean? I go, What are you talking about? We hadn't been talking about it. He goes, Well, probably the little kid version of you didn't think that you'd ever be there at the All-Star Game doing what you did. He goes, I don't know if it's weird for a son to be proud of his dad, but I'm really proud of you. That's amazing. Then he came up and he gave me a hug and he kissed me on the head. It was so sweet. Oh, God, you must have fallen apart. He's such a sweet kid. I did fall apart. You big softy.

That's very old soul of him to say.

Yeah, very old soul. I'm going to cry, too, so I'm going to stop.

I love that.

Really lucky. They weren't there with you, were they?

No, just because of school. It was too many days away from school, and they're in middle school and high school.

But you filled them in.

Oh, my God. I FaceTime Abe from the bench as the game was going on, and I was just like, I can't hear you.

Are they hockey fans, Will?

Not as much because they grew up in California. But yeah. Anyway, we've taken up so much time of our guests, and our guest doesn't deserve to have me ramble on.

It's pretty awesome. I bet you the guest is crying right now. They need a little It's time to get it together.

I don't. I doubt it, but I don't know. But this person- That's pretty cool, Will. Yeah, thanks. It was once in a lifetime, and it was extraordinary. Speaking of extraordinary, I love my segues. Yes. Beautiful. We're talking extraordinary talent because our guest, she is an absolutely extraordinary artist, actor, filmmaker. She's been nominated for an Academy Award. She's won She's got 22 Critics Awards. That's it. Golden Globes, all of it. She's the first American ever to be awarded a César Award, the French Oscars.

I appreciate the pronunciation on that.

Yeah, thank you. César, oui, César. César. For- One cigarette. Clouds of Sil... Yeah. To coffee. I take one cigarette. I wait. I meet up with my lover. Coffee. She's just been in some of the biggest films of all time. She's been in one of the hugest franchises ever at a very young age and took her through her 20s, I would imagine. I can't believe that she's only, I think, 33. It's hard to imagine because she's done so much extraordinary work. She's about to start. She's going to be in her new film, which is being released around the time that we're doing.

Good research.

Good for you. I know. I'm sure the studio is thrilled right now as you're reaching for the date.

She's got a great laugh. We know that much.

She's dying to appear.

I'm literally trying to think.

I bet she's got the date. Why don't you introduce her, you numb nut?

No, they gave me the date, and I want to get… But the trailer looks so amazing. Love Lies, Bleeding. It looks so amazing from A24. Anyway, guys, it's Kristen Stuart. Kristen Stuart.

Guys. Can you believe this?

Kristen Stuart.

What are you doing saying yes to this podcast? What a nice person. What are you doing?

You're a bunch of ding-dongs like us.

Fire your publicist.

I know. Portured sitting through our torture. I know. I'm so sorry to put you through that. Hi.

Hey. Hi. How's it going? My heart is pounding now. I don't know if it's the initial conversation about your shitty heart, but mine is not like…

Mine's pretty shitty.

It's listening is interesting. You sit around and listen to the podcast and you forget you have to go on it because it's fun to listen to you guys. Then you're like, Oh, no.

It's not that great. It only gets great when the guest comes in.

Hello.

Welcome, Kristen Stuart. So nice to meet you. Thank you for doing this.

Does she have a Is it a coffee drink, Kristen Stuart? Oh, yeah. What coffee is it? Is it a shake?

Is it green?

No. No, there's little flowers on this cup.

Oh, there you go. Oh, cute.

You know what I was thinking about this, Kristen, walk us through your coffee routine in the morning, if you will, real quick. What's your go-to?

I'm so into the start of this. Yeah, great.

Don't worry. It's not going to be hard hitting at all. It's a bunch of garbage.

No, coffee is only something that I recently got into. I never used to have any morning beverages. I just would and then I realized how fun it was.

Oh, yeah. A little stimuli.

Do you wake up and go immediately downstairs or wherever into the kitchen and make coffee, or do you have a gap? What coffee do you make? I am very interested in this process.

For a while, I would try and make Espresso, but I'm not good at it. All of my pulls are watery and weird.

Yeah. First thing in the morning, too, you don't have skills.

I'm being out of bed. I need to be quiet in order to not infuriate my family.

What do you mean? When you get up- Really?

Because when you wake up, you're ready to go.

Yeah. I can wake up having a full conversation. Be like, Hey, what's up? What have you been doing? What are you thinking about?

I'm similar to my God. My wife's exactly like that.

Chris and I'm like that, too. I'm very much like that. I'm not like that. Well, Sean, let's not get into your sleep hygiene. It's a fucking disaster. It's worse than your heart.

You got to get out of your bed. You got to go downstairs. You got to get in your car, drive over to where Scotty lives. I've I've got the coffee maker that you can program the night before, so you wake up and it's already a full pot of coffee. So it's grump and idiot proof.

Is it just regular coffee, JB?

Yeah.

I don't know when maybe two years ago, and I thought about this morning, I said, Fuck, I'm such a creature of habit. I never deviate. No matter where I am, I go downstairs, I turn on the kettle, then I fire up the Nespresso machine, and I make a double Nespresso, a little bit of brown sugar, and then I pour in. So I do americano style.

Yeah, I was going to say, what's the kettle for? Yeah.

Then a little hot water.

Just so it looks like country and- No, just because I don't know.

Nespresso is It's so easy. I don't know if you've tried Nespresso. Instead of trying to make Nespresso, Nespresso is pretty good. Bear with him.

Christine is looking for a free machine. I'm not.

I'm not. I got 160 bucks.

Say Nespresso one more time. You'll get one. I got 160 No, I'm not.

By the way, Clooney owns part of Nespresso, I think. I'm not going to give Cluny any more dough. But anyway, that is my process. Hi, Chris. Anyway. Hi, Kristen.

Stuart. Let's get the guest talk. I know.

I know.

Sorry. Kristen, where are you today?

I'm home. I'm in LA.

Got it. In Los Angeles? Yeah.

Did you grow up out in LA?

I did, actually. I was bored. My first house that I ever lived in was in Topanga, at the base of Topanga.

No way. On the Valley side or the beach side?

Valley side, obviously.

Oh, really? That's right where I grew up. I grew up... You know Gary's Market there on a corner of Dumets in Topanga.

Oh, my God, you freak. My house next door. No way. Literally, my In my backyard, my fence overlooked the parking lot, and I would always peek through the gate and be like, I'm spying on people.

That was my loop with my bike. I lived in a house between Dumets and Canoga. Or sorry, between Tupang and Canoga on Dumex, till I was 15, 16.

That is crazy. This just sounds like a Tom Petty song.

So we're Woodland Hills kids. See, the valley's not that bad.

I take great pride, actually. I like being a little scumbag who literally gets high off the smell of a 7-Eleven.

Oh, yeah. There was an old van store.

I just saw J. B.'s face, Chris, and you just made him so happy because he used to tell stories about being in Woodland Hills with his skateboard on the bus. Yeah.

I live in the 7-Eleven store. I learned how to play Pac-Man, Astroids, everything in there. I just live in there all day long. A little hostess cake. Oh, my God.

What was it like growing up, Chris? Were you like Jay? Did you have a skateboard? Did you play video games? Did you have siblings?

All of those things. All three of them, yeah. I would sit outside of my brother's room and watch him play video games until he would let me enter.

Really?

Did you go to school out there? Did you go to Serrania or Parkman or Taft?

What the fuck? This is so weird. I feel like you talk about the valley, but it's a big place. I went to Serrania Elementary School, and I walked there every day.

That's where I went to grade school until sixth grade.

Get out of here. That's so cool. Guys, guess what else? You were both child actors.

What? Something in the water out there telling you.

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I wanted to get to this because I love... Because JB, obviously, started when I don't know. God, you were what? Seven or something, JB? Ten? Yeah. Me too. There you go. He always understands that experience. Let's talk a little bit about that, JB. Let's talk about first jobs.

A first job, Little House in the Prairie.

Did you have Did your parents drive you to a million auditions over the hill?

Yeah. I just grew up on the Ventura Freeway. Lots of traffic on the way. But I learned how to drive. I paid attention. Freeway driving had to merge late. You got to skip the line. Then when they weren't able to drive me into the city, I'd have to get on the bus there on Ventura Boulevard, stop every single red light. Although it would take me an hour and a half to get in the city, but I have my skateboard, my little headshot in my little Manila envelope, and I'd get off at Hollywood and Highland and skateboard the rest of the way. But it's for the passion, Kristin, just the passion of the craft.

From jump, you just want a passionate young man.

Was that your experience, too? You're going with your folks to audition because your parents were both worked in entertainment as well, right?

Yeah. My mom really hooked me up because she was a script supervisor. If she wasn't on a movie, she would be the guy taking me around, which is a total pitch. It's just constant.

You wanted it, though. You wanted to be an actor, yeah.

No, she was forcing me into it. I was begging her.

Yeah, I was like- You will contribute to the bottom line in this house. For Tracy, the script supervisor is the person who keeps her eye on the script, makes sure the actors say the lines correctly, helps the director in the camera department with screen direction, and if things match, et cetera. If you're using your left hand to pick up the glass in all first three takes, and then the next take, you pick it up with your right-hand, that's not going to cut, so she'll say... Did you grow up being incredible at continuity? Would you always match your action?

No, I think it's the opposite where I was always like, That shit doesn't matter. Really? Yeah. I was like, If that's what you're paying attention to, then you're really not doing your job right.

It's that classic. You got bigger problems, yeah.

No, I would drive her crazy. We've never worked together.

Oh, you guys haven't?

Oh, you haven't?

Mm-mm.

What did dad do?

Stage manager. He did TV, which we always gave him a bunch of crap for because we were pretentious movie people.

Stage manager, so multi-cam for studio audience shows?

Yeah, he was super into the… He always told us that making movies was like watching paint dry because it's boring and takes forever. He's like running variety shows.

Yeah. Did he ever do any sitcoms? Would I have worked with him? Because I did a bunch of those back then.

I feel like he did mainly game shows, fear factor, a lot of award shows, and also talk shows. I bet you've worked with him a lot, but not on anything long. You know what I mean? You've probably been on shows that he's worked on.

Are they excited for you? I mean, your success is not new. Were they excited for you? Or was it just like, Yeah, we're all in the business. It just happens?

No, they were stoked and tripping on it. But both in very different ways and reflective of both of their vocations. I think as script supervisor, it's a department of one, and that's always a freak. My mom's not very social and does her own thing and is a weird-They're always my favorite people on the set, though.

I know me, too. I know me, too.

Well, They're either the best or the worst, where you're just like, Oh, she's a stickler. She's just going to kill me. Or you're the keeper of... Or you just want to impress them.

Right. Yeah. With the way you match your action. But you said- You were like, Do you see that?

It was perfect. We I only had to do it three times.

They must be super thrilled with the way you've been able to transition, though, from being successful in childhood into a young adult and then into adult. Because as you know, it just doesn't happen that often.

Yeah, it is weird. I know my mom, before she was nice enough to cart me all over town, she was like, Do you really want to do this? We have to pay all this money for headshots. You got to pay me back if this ever works out. I was like, I will. I remember her looking in the rear view mirror being like, Okay, well, I believe in you, but you have to believe in yourself. The most cliché cartoon version of the start of something. I was like, Trust in me.

Like a poster with the kitten saying, Hang in there. Yeah, a bumper sticker.

But it works, though.

That's great. But she totally was like, Oh, no, I'm going to watch my kid. I can imagine now, school is so scary. Being just a little guy in the world in every way is so scary. I can't imagine having a little kid and at five years old, you have to be like, goodbye. For so many hours, you're going to go off on your own, and we're not going to know what's going on, and you're just going to have to figure it out. Even that totally freaks me out. The idea of my parents dealing with me being like, You're a bad actor, and you're ugly. The adult pressures. You don't get the job.

But also, I talk about this a lot, too. You and Jason have this where you're not, I imagine, in awe of things that I would be in, having not grown up and wanting to be in the business when I was older. I still am in awe. If I meet certain actors or celebrities or whatever, I'm just like, Oh, my God, I can't believe. Like today, I can't believe I'm meeting Kristen Stewart. It's crazy. It's really cool. Were you desensitized to that? For example, Panic Room, which I want to talk about. I love that movie. I've seen it 10 times. Of course, I'm so gay. When the thing was over, I was like, I got to try to Google, where did they film that? I love that beautiful house. What a brownstone. Yeah. What brownstone was that? It was a set, right? I'm sure it was a set.

It was a fully functional brownstone built on a soundstage in Manhattan Beach. Every outlet worked. It was mind-blowing. It was in a time where, I guess, people do this, you just have to be one of five men who are allowed to do it. But Fincher is one of those people, and he just built. You could have transplanted that. You could live in it. We should honestly see where the pieces are.

Let's build it.

But all those walls, they could fly all those walls, right? Because all those intricate camera moves, they had I would imagine, right? The whole thing was on hydraulics, I bet.

Yeah, I think there were also different. We had five actual... I don't know if it was five, but we had different panic rooms that were detached from the whole house. Then there was one embedded in the actual house that was totally practical. Then it was just the most elaborate playground for- Sean, that's what you call in the pantry, when you run out of Snickers, you call that the panic room.

Panic room, right.

Wait, but to My point, when you, first of all, got the part at such a young age, and then there's Jody Foster, and you guys are working together, to me, I would have been like, Oh, my God, it's Jody Foster. But having grown up in the business, were you like, Hey, Jody, I'm Kristen. Here we go. The scene goes like this, and blah, blah, blah. Were you desensitized to it?

It was different because I was now being spoken to. I guess I grew up on movie sets eating Snickers and stuff, but I wasn't actually in front of the camera and being like, Hey, what's up? How's it going? What are we going to do now? That part was like... It was crazy that all of a sudden, I was part of the process because I grew up hanging out with my mom on set all the time. That's why I wanted... I mean, it is why I wanted to be there and to engage with it. I can't remember if I was star struck. I was intimidated by just having to be like, Okay, this is a job, and I have to be like, Yeah, for sure, Jody, let's do this. Let's block this scene. But it started off being someone else.

But for you, was it like how it was for me where you… Had I been older and understood all the adult responsibilities of rent and taxes and all that stuff, the stakes of auditions and the stakes of performing well when at work would be so much higher than as kids, we were like, Oh, this is great. Fuck, I get to take the day off from school and just playing around. The stakes were lower. It was more fun, and so therefore, it It wasn't quite as anxiety-inducing. Yeah?

Absolutely. I think I grew into that. I think when I was... When you're little and you're just like, Yeah, I can do this, and everyone else thinks I can.

My anxiety came later. How about for you?

Yeah, exactly. It's not to be a weirdo, but that definitely just comes with the hormonal surge of like, Oh, no, do I need to consider having sex now? I know I have to consider. Then you're like, Well, now my life's complete. I'm debilitated. It's a lot.

But, J. B, when How much was it, JB? Because you also had the thing when you were a kid of providing. Doing the work was a way of contributing.

Yeah. I mean, it was difficult because my parents were also in a position of manager in my career and also in my sister's career. They were being compensated for that from us as well. That got complicated because those monies went into rent and mortgage. If we're not working, That affects the bottom line for the household.

But you didn't know about that. You weren't aware of that when you were- I did.

I was keenly aware of it, and it was fucking stressful because remember work permits?

What you were just saying wasn't true.

You did feel like- Well, eventually, yeah. But at the start, though, at the start, it was all fun and games. But then as I got into 14, 15, 16, 17, and school got harder. Remember with work permits, every six months, your work permit had to get renewed, and they would renew your work permit based on your grades. You had to hold at least a C average. That's not difficult, but if you know you have to, it becomes difficult, especially when you're looking down the barrel of a midterm or a final exam where that's a huge percentage of your grade. I know if I failed this test for some weird reason. Now I get fired off the show. All those people are out of work, and we got no money coming into the house.

Did you find that it was hard to keep your grades up, dipping in and out? Because I was really good at cheating.

Because when you're on the set doing school, it's only three hours a day. It's just you and the tutor, and you can hide a bunch of notes.

In college, my eyes hurt. I would be in those big lecture halls, and my eyes hurt from cheating because my face would be forward, but my eyes would look at the paper next time. My eyes would just so much pain. Anyway, how are you?

You ruined your peripheral vision from cheating. Then, Kristen, then how old were you when you did the first of the twilight films?

17.

17. I mean, and talking to the extent, I'll quote Jason, to the extent to which you're comfortable about, that process of being part of something that's such a global phenomenon and instantly... Again, you've been working since you were a kid, you've been around it, but now you're part of something that is so known and so it...

Yeah, now you're famous.

Yeah, famous in a way that- Can't go out and around. But also in a way that very few people experience, especially at that rate.

Yeah, and also 17 is the most awkward age ever. You're just now starting to be like, Oh, I am a woman. I think I always was super utilitarian about the job because my parents are crew, and I was just like, Yeah, I love this job. It's what I'm going to do forever. I'm going to make movies forever. It's chill. Then that definitely made things different. Yeah, I bet. But it was We have a cool insulated... When people ask me about my high school years or my college years, which I didn't do either of because I'm an idiot. Same. Me too. That's the period of time that I think about. It's so weird because it doesn't feel like I'm referencing myself. I feel like- Really? Talking about a different time, it's hard for me to relate to that. It's so personal. I don't see it from the outside. I'm like, Well, I was going I'm going through… It's just so fucking weird to do everything personal publicly. I was like, Oh, you know what I was dating. You know exactly what happened.

It's like me saying, Where do you live? You're like, Oh, unfortunately, everybody knows where you live.

It's like, Are you guys asked about your first partners every time you do an interview about… Obviously, the series comes up, it's where I come from. It's like, Oh, well, what about that? You're like, It's crazy that people are still asking me about that first dude.

Well, yeah. I I didn't have that, and I didn't go to college either.

I'm the dummy that has like, Now I want to ask who is the dude. I have no idea.

I don't either, by the way.

Well, it's the proverbial dude. Right.

But it seems like all you guys in there were It was such a phenomenon, as I remember. I apologize, I have not seen them. Everybody got famous really fast. It must have been comforting that you guys each had each other to go through it with, and you could lean on one another? Because I seem to remember you guys all got an equal level of Fame, and you could go through it together. I would imagine that there was some comfort in that.

Yeah, totally. We were all so different. I don't know. I think about that. The first picture that I ever saw of myself in a newspaper was in the post. It sounds so old school, too. It's like, We open the post and there you are and the cover smoking weed with your dog. This is my boyfriend's family. They're from Staten Island and they're like, What's going on here? I was like, Oh, what is going on here? The movie wasn't even out yet. I had never been photographed by a paparazzi in my life. I was been acting since I was 10 years old and was like, What the hell? Then I got in trouble and I was like, Oh, I think this is going to ruin everything. I'm so sorry. Now weed's legal and everything was fine. Yeah, But I just thought that was such a big deal.

Was there a moment there where you considered... This was fun, but things would be so much easier if I got back to anonymity. I'm still young enough where I can go to college, I can study another career. I went through that. I was like, Is this worth it? Can I sustain a level of success and income? I can get all the way to the finish line because I got to decide now. That makes it worth it. Yeah, these are the years for college, so Did you go through any of that?

I have to say I felt like at the time that I could have redirected energy and become an academic, I was so hungry for more work because the twilight series itself took forever. We did it over a four-year period. We made five movies. It's probably more than four years, by the way. 17, 18, 19, 20, 21. Those I wanted to make other movies at the same time so badly. I just crashed and burned and barreled my way through those years and just was really... Lacked any balance. I was just working constantly.

Singularly focused, yeah.

You had your eyes on the end of that tunnel. When you're done with your obligation on the franchise, you could start doing other movies that were a little bit more exciting to you?

Well, we all, if we were able to, tried to slam one in between. That was why it was such a loaded period because we were either promoting one of these movies, making one of these movies, or trying to shove in something that gave you some variation. Not in terms of what it was for other people, but just so you could do something other than play that one part for fucking six years.

But then at the tail end of that, did you find yourself... Was there a moment of relief? I'm sure it was a great experience. I don't mean in that sense. I just mean that just the absolute making five films in four years and everything that comes with that and all the exterior pressures and all the... Did you find that moment of like, fuck, where you could just exhale and take a second?

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, I bet.

Then the great news is that you did start to make films that were not to disparage those films at all, but films that were very different. It seems a little bit more on your artistic ideals and and tastes, for lack of better phrases. I mean, your career is just really fucking exciting.

It's incredible, especially, Spencer. I thought you were just incredible. I know.

So, so, so good. I couldn't agree more.

That's so nice to say all that.

Thanks. No, truly. I mean, you're thought of as just one of our great actors. Not a lot of people come out of franchises like that and then get the credibility that you have earned. It's just this Awesome.

Well, it feels like, Kristen, you've had three careers in such a... Or four. You've done so many different things, and now you've got this new film coming out that look, like I said, I obviously haven't seen it yet. It was just at Sundance. I can't wait to see it. How was the reception at Sundance? It must have been awesome.

It was really fun. It was cool because I hadn't done, I think, what was called a midnight screening. I was nervous because I fall asleep in movies past past 7:00 PM, no matter what. I was like, We have to screen our movie. Everyone's going to be sleepy and sick and altitude sick. It was just a cesspool. I was just like, This is not the time to screen the movie. But it was like a real... A rumpus room. I just couldn't believe it. I was like, everyone is fully engaged and standing up and clapping during parts of the movie. I was like, I haven't fucking hung out in a theater in this way in forever.

Oh, wow.

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So what's the stuff What you do look for now? Because you are doing lots of different kinds of films. So as you think about the things that attract you, the things that excite you in terms of filming, what are the things that are out there? You're like, Fuck, I want to do that.

It's so hard to answer that all the time. You know what I mean? Especially as an actor, you're like, You know it when you see it, and then you feel like a crazy person because you'll just do anything to make it happen. But then before you see it, you're just floating in this liminal like, I want to want something. But we're starting to... I'm really gutting. I mean, it's not the first I've mentioned, and I've been sending out this siren song about wanting to make this movie based on one of my favorite books. I'm pretty sure at some point in the next week or two, it's going to be something that I can say, I am doing this, and we are going to make this now because we have money to do so. But it's so hard to get money for small movies. We'll call you back.

But this is not the film you're directing, though, right? This is different from the film that you're directing.

This is the one I'm trying to direct.

This is the one you're trying to direct. Okay, so you have talked about This is Chronology of Water?

Yeah.

Yeah, it's been a long time.

Would that be the first film that you direct?

Yeah.

First feature? Yeah, first feature. Oh, my God. How exciting.

I was going to get to that, J. B, because both of you guys, again, there's a similarity. You grew You were in it, you were around it, your parents were in it, and your mom was a script supervisor, and you made a load of films and done it really well. It makes sense that you would want to direct.

What is the draw, Kristen? Are you attracted to the holistic four corners, you got to do it all thing, as opposed to just the acting lane and playing a character? Because that was the draw for me and more interface with the crew.

I feel like on movies that I really love making, you get to be a part of the crew and directors that let you into that process. It doesn't always happen, but sometimes you're like, We're all making this. Even Even though there's clearly somebody who spearheads and obviously the perspective that's being maintained comes from a singular place, it still feels like everyone's hand is in a balanced way supporting the weight of that. As an actor, I always feel like the director is in the scene with me, or at least, or I don't always, but when it's good, I feel like we've done it. I don't know. There's an exchange, and I just want to step onto the other side of it and be like, it's not the same job. There's an element of it kickstarting someone's engine, and I just know I will be so good at that. I just know how to get people going. Or not people. I know how to get people going. I mean, if you're doing anything real, it happens, and you can do that while not being on camera. I just can't wait to take care of someone and set them on a path.

I'm thinking about one person in particular and one movie in particular now. I want so badly to just preserve this path that this girl is on. I want to see what does with all of my ideas. I want to see how she makes them better. I want to know how to look at things. I'm always thinking the camera should be in a different place. I'm like, You're not seeing this. Trust me, I know I'm not being received. I can't wait to put something together from the very bottom to the top and just- Have a plan and communicate that plan to a team and be a motivator and just, I got you guys.

Here's what we're going to do. Just maybe trust me, if you're not seeing it, you will. Are you like that in other parts of your life? Are you the one that comes up with the great idea for where we're going to throw the party or where we're going to go to dinner and who should be at the dinner, where they should sit? Are you a good planner? I like that?

Type A.

Yeah, I'm like a total control freak. I'm like, if I could just design everything all the time. Truly? I have to hold myself back from being like, This is what everyone should do.

But I feel like the control freak, I know you're being self-effacing there, but it does get a bad rap. We have to come up with a better term than control freak because it's such a pejorative when really it's- You're like a fucking rebel rouser.

You're like somebody who's like, Let's go, man. Let's follow me.

I got an idea. You're going to love it. What's your sign? Check this out. I'm a Capricorn.

Oh, yeah.

Which is not great for collaboration, but I'm working on it.

I was like, I was like... I was at... Does anyone play golf? You guys Oh, my God.

Oh, hell, yeah. Let's go. Will and I have a sickness. Yeah. Me too.

But it's so... I'm fully... I totally fucked up my ring finger because there's this bump on it that I hate so much, but it's not going to go anywhere.

What are you talking about?

What are you talking about?

Are you serious? You're a golfer?

I have made a hole in motherfucking one.

Kristen Stewart. We're making this news today. This is crazy. I've never had a hole in one. I hate you. I've been playing for- Jason shot a 70 last week, a one I've never shot a par.

I mean, I'm single holes, but I've never parred any course. Not even the one that I live next to, which is weird. It's like the Bermuda Triangle because I've birdied, birdied, birdied, and then just fucking shit the bed and ruined it. I'm just like, what?

Are you naturally gifted or have you studied this? Have you taken lessons?

My dad taught me how to swing when I was little, and then I didn't play until a pandemic, and then I started playing all the time.

That's what got me That's what we did.

Wait, so you're out there at public courses there? You're going to like Wilson Harding and- Balboa. Yeah. Have you not...

Oh my God.

Listener, she's showing us the seal from the local public golf course.

Yeah, the Par 3 down the street.

As a tattoo on your form. You are a badass.

Wow, that is so- It's big, too. I really went in. Me and my friends finished up and we had this great game and we had a bunch of beers and we were like, Let's go. We're We'll be best friends. We'll be best friends forever. But honestly, these are my best girls.

But wait a second. You got that tattoo after a few beers? Because I was literally just scouting today a tattoo place here in the East Village. I said to the guy, What are your hours? Usually, he goes, Well, you're supposed to stay up until about 2:00 in the morning, but they get too many drunks in here that want tattoos. Then they come back the next day and they say, Hey, can you take this off? Where's the eraser? I start shutting down around 7:00 or 8:00 because you're not supposed to get a tattoo with a little buzz on. But you did. No.

No, because it like, thins your blood and you don't make choice choices. But he was a friend of a friend, and he's an idiot, and so here we are. But I still like it.

I don't know if I've made bad decisions drinking. Let me think about it.

Wait, Kristen, I really want to play golf with you one day. I'm going to get a hold of you, and one day, I'm going to get a hold of you, and one day I'm going to take you out to- J.

B. Is out of town. Kristen, you can come play with me because he's not at the club right now, but I am. Yeah, I'm going to play with you.

I'm tired of golf until October.

Well, after you guys golf, Chris and I, I read somewhere a while ago that you like cooking. I love Then after golf, we'll- Sean, you can't change the fucking subject. Why not? What else are we going to talk about golf for? You swing the ball and make it a hole in the hole.

You can't just hijack the conversation.

You get really hungry playing golf. We just have dinner after.

That's what I'm saying, chili burgers or whatever.

Now you're speaking Sean's language.

Have you just been playing the public courses or have you gone around to all the country clubs, too?

I've been taken to one or two really fancy courses. It's a completely different vibe. It is, right?

Yeah. There's some good and some You don't like middle-aged white guys?

I like you guys. But pervasively, I will say on the whole.

Anyway, that's so cool.

That's so, so, so, so, It's so cool that you do that, and we can't wait to play with you.

Shani, a food question? Yeah.

Yes. Do you cook with butter or oil?

Actually, it's very weird that you ask that because last night I made a Pomodoro and I used a bunch of butter, and I was like, I know you're a bit of a cheat, but if you like, emulsify the shit out of it and it gets all frothy and amazing and you like me. It was really incredible. But this morning I thought, you could probably do that with olive oil It would be different, maybe less rich, but you still could get that frothy- Right, Sean?

Sean, does your chef agree? I mean, do you agree?

It's all about that pasta water.

But wait, why would one want to go with olive oil instead of butter because it's healthier or different taste?

It's also a little more Italian to use oil than butter. That's the thing.

Because at least in America, with the butter.

Please, take a one coffee. I like the oil.

But wait, are you- Are you Italian guys also taking your coffee.

They're also smoking.

Are you one of those people because of your self-described control freak, like you said, do you cook for all your friends and groups of people? Do you like to command the kitchen?

Yeah. Yeah, I did Thanksgiving this year.

You did? By yourself?

How'd that go?

Me and my girlfriend did it. Then people brought stuff, and it was so annoying because we were so inundated with food, and ours was really great. Then we had all these dishes muddying the waters, and I was like, What is all this bullshit? In their shitty pots, in their tacky pants.

Again, it's not control freak. It's dream maker. I think it's dream maker. Yeah, that's right.

Did you do the turkey and everything?

Yeah.

I hear that's not easy.

I really figured it out. You have to get it in pieces. To do the whole thing is really difficult. But if you get it in different pieces in the neck and back or it's really gnarly to talk about meat in this way, but are it detached and get that dry brine going. And so it's all encrusted.

So you've done this before?

Yeah.

Wow. Now, how did you get the cooking bug? Did mom or dad cook when you were growing up?

Yeah, they did a bit. I'm a stoner, and I'm just really food obsessed.

You get a little snacky and you want something nice.

Yeah, and I like playing in the kitchen. Do you guys cook, too?

Yeah. Well, I started baking because I started with a cheesecake, and I was like, I want because I want a piece of cheesecake.

His cheesecake is so good, by the way.

I'm sitting there craving a piece of cheesecake. I'm like, Well, why don't I just get off my ass and make it? So I just made it. It's so good.

Because the chef didn't show up yet. She usually shows up four or five. Sean's doing real well, Kristen.

Do you ever make shit food like Slappy Joe's? I make Slappy Joe's a lot, too.

Yeah, I have definitely low and high. You're just making fun of the slob.

No, wait, you have low and high. Is that what you said?

Yeah, I like to be fancy and also like, Skuzzie.

You go low and high.

We have Slappy Joe, Skuzzie.

How are you now? Sean is in great shape. He's a beautiful Super handsome. But he does have his little cookie pouch. That's from all the fun food that he eats. Baking. Why do you have no cookie pouch, Kristen? You're talking like- I have a cookie pouch.

No, you're very fit.

I guess what I'm getting to is you don't have a huge workout regimen that offsets. You don't work out so that you can eat.

I have gotten, as I've grown into a reasonable adult who's not a total shit show, I actually do exercise and cook healthy food and try not to eat the meat. I've incorporated some… It's like I'm either eating Slopy Joe's and drinking Coors and playing Los Felos three times a day, or I am working out constantly and cooking meat.

And depriving yourself yummy stuff for a week or two.

I don't know. I like going all in on whatever I'm going in on. Me too.

What is your sign, for Christ's sake?

Aries. In fact, I was I was recently at the golf course, and this dude that I see all the time there who used to be an actor. He sent us a screenplay of his. He's an older man. Really, actually, he's super hot because he drives this lime green, hand-painted Honda and plays guitar at the back, offers us a beer and a sock. I was like, no. A beer?

Am I in a sock?

But what are you doing? Yeah, he was like, You want one?

Justin Thoreau is there? That's crazy.

Have he gave you a script and you took it?

I gave him my email address. Yeah, I was like, You might send this to me. What?

You're a good person.

But he's cool, and he sang these songs to me and my friends about our signs. Mine was, Man, what is this guy? It's totally like Google. He's on YouTube. Is he? But he sang this song called I Am, I Am, I Am the Ram. All the verses are about, I will lead the charge. But also how completely fucking egotistical and arrogant and ridiculous and Yeah, so you're not going to get people like that bothering you up at the country clubs. That's the thing. I prefer this. We can hang out.

Exactly.

But it was really good. He really got me and he really nailed It's really nailed all my attributes. So yeah, the ram thing. I'm surprised. What's the animal for a Capricorn?

A goat, maybe.

See, we have these annoying horn. We're these silly little animals with big horns.

Yeah, I don't like it. All right, we're going to let you go, but what is your last meal you could have being a foodie? If you had to call in one last meal. Is it a pizza? I think for me, it would be fries and a pizza, I think.

Would it be dessert? Christian, would it be a dessert type thing or would it be like...

No, I'd go pizza over. Yeah, I like the food more.

You like salt more than sugar?

Primarily, I think so, yeah. But then sometimes you just get... Yeah, sometimes I get a little crazy. No, yeah, I would say probably pizza. I think maybe like...

So like pizza, beer, golf, and then video games. That's a perfect Christmas to her day.

You just need a van and you're all set.

I'm not a gamer. I wish that I was. I'm jealous of people who are into sports and video games.

If you're not playing golf, but you're drinking beer, what are you doing? If you're not playing golf, are Are you watching shit on TV?

I like to play pool and cook and golf and read and make movies, and that's it.

That's it. By the way, that's plenty.

That's pretty good, too. It's I wish I'd like to read it. I wish I'd like to read it. Fuck.

Really?

Yeah, it's really good. It's really, really good. Sean, what's your last meal? What would you have? Spaghetti all day long.

Spaghetti?

Yeah. Yeah, you're fucking- And vanilla ice cream.

Christ.

Drinking ice cream. That really me. That was really funny.

Kristen, we kept you way too long. We don't deserve your time. What a pleasure. Yeah, seriously.

I'm coming after you for some golf. Don't be shocked when I show up.

Thank you guys for letting me hang out. You guys just all hang out and talk for an hour, and then you put it on the internet. That's such a weird thing to do.

That's all we do. We do that with my friends. We'll talk about your movie, too. We'll say your movie again, too. We're so bad about promoting.

I can't wait to.

Did we get a date on it yet?

Yeah. When is it?

I actually do know this. It is coming out on March eighth. March eighth. I think. Maybe that's me. It's coming out in the beginning of March.

It's a spring release, you all. Go see it. She's in it.

She's great. It's Love Lies Bleeding. It's Kristen Stuart, the great Kristen Stuart. We don't do this often, but we're going to give you- That's so nice.

Golf clap.

Same to you. We're going to give you a golf clap. Thank you, Kristen. We're going to give you a golf clap. Thank you, Kristen. So nice to meet you. Thank you for today.

Thanks, Kristen.

You were great.

You guys, thankThank you so much. That's awesome. That was really fun. Thank you.

And done. And done.

Well, great. The great Kristen Stuart. I can't believe it. I just love that. She's so… There's so much… I wish I She's so cool. She's her street cred, right? She's so cool. She's happening. The fact that she plays golf is just such a great counterbalance to that. I think it gives golf a great name. Because you think golf is uncool? Well, Listen, it does not have a long history of being street creddy. You get some cool person like her playing golf.

It's great for the sport. I agree, but at the same time, I will say this, who gives a shit?

I wonder if she wants to go to the Dina Shore.

Who gives a I don't think. What's that, Shani?

She's going to become the new Dina Shore.

She's the new Dina Shore.

What we got to do is we got to convince her to come to one of these proams with us.

Yeah, exactly. It'd be a great get.

Yeah. Maybe on one of our golf trips, she seems like a super fun hang.

Well, the AT&T maybe gets the celebs back maybe next year. Mr. Steve John, the great Steve John.

The great Steve John.

We'll invite Kristen.

Maybe that'll be. Then on top of that, we forget the fact that she's Academy Award nominated, César winning actress. She's done everything from... It's not rare, but it's rarefied air of being somebody who's been part of massive franchises and then done all these really cool art house films that have- Her co-star would be one of the few, Robert Pattynson.

It had a similar-Similar thing, yeah. Not fortunate because that takes away from their talent. But the both of them were able to find some projects that facilitated that transition for them.

Yeah, post that. Because like, Downey, you could say, but Downey came into it with a huge body of work before he started getting into the Marvel stuff. But really, to start as a young actor and It would come out of that.

Hunger Games. Wasn't Jennifer Lawrence? Was she in the Hunger Games? Yeah. She transitioned well.

Great Jennifer Lawrence. You're right. But there have been a few minutes. It's still rare.

Yeah, it's on one hand.

You should get her to play golf because… Here it comes, guys.

Here it comes. Get ready.

Why does it look like you're reading?

No, I'm not. I'm just saying because when...

God, he can't. He's so proud of it.

Go ahead. When golfers sometimes yell that thing at the golf ball, right? An announcement will say, She's going to have to get this one to blank, right? If she's going to... When they hit the ball and it's in flight, they go, Oh, got a bite. Bite. Bite.

Okay. We will allow.

Judges will allow. You think we'll allow that? Bite. No, I will say this. That particular one actually bites.

Nice. Nice punch up, Willy. Bye. Bye, everybody.

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