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Mckinnon is in it, running back, first time in goal to go. Play, action, fake. Right-side throw, touch down. Kansas City, Nicole Hartman. Nicole Hartman with the catch on the right side. A three-yard shutdown pass in overtime. Kansas City wins the game, 25, 22. And the Chief's Kingdom has scarded its own history class because for the first time in 6,944 days, there is a back-to-back Super Bowl champion, and it is the Kansas City Chiefs, champions of Super Bowl 58 on the heels of Super Bowl 57. The Chiefs do it in overtime. Mitch Holtes with The Call, Chiefs Radio Network. They done it again. The Kansas City Chiefs. Patrick Holmes, two. Mecole Hardman, three-yard touch. Yes, Mecole Hardman. Three-yard TD pass with three seconds left in overtime. Chiefs, Rally past the Niners, 25 to 22 in Super Bowl 58. They are the first repeat champion in 19 years, and they have a chance to be the first team ever next season to three P. Dan hands us here with Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sesler. We are Heroes Bowl. The backdrop, we are in the end zone, coming right behind the end zone where Patrick O'Homes hit Hardman to win the Super Bowl and another Super Bowl MVP, boys.

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And what a treat. Overtime.

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For so much of this game, we're talking to each other being like, This is a boring Super Bowl. Let's pick it up here. And once that fourth quarter started, really the end of the third, once the Chiefs got that countdown, it was an all-time classic. I just think of how this season played out for the Chiefs and how his teammates and their struggles, in a sense, made him have to be a game manager. This was the conversation with Purdy all season, game changer, game manager. What I saw tonight out of Mahomes was what I've seen out of the best quarterbacks in the history of the game, which is that he did everything that needed to be done in the moment that needed it to be done. It wasn't flashy plays. It was the right decisions on the last drive of regulation. It was obviously the right decisions of when to run in overtime and him just being calm, being patient when he needed to, being aggressive when he needed to, and just always doing the right thing because that's what great quarterbacks do.

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It was almost like a microcosm of their season because the Chiefs in the first half, stuck in mud, three punts, a big fumble that caused them a big and they get out of there with a field goal, and you're lucky at that point to be down 10 to 3 at the half. Then over their final four possessions, the Chiefs scored 19 points. It's the way they close their season in the playoffs. I feel like it was just a year ago that we were in Arizona, and I was thinking to myself and saying on our Super Bowl recap show that there's this inevitable nature to Patrick Mahomes and to the Chiefs in general. It happened again. I can't help but flip the script and think of like, my gosh, it happened again to Kyle Shanaher. It's the second time that the Niners had a 10-point lead on Mahomes. It's the fourth Super Bowl that Mahomes faced a 10-point deficit. He's won three of them. He did it again tonight. So there is this inevitable sense that the Chiefs will always find a way.

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I know where you're coming from, Greg, when you call him the game manager, but I find it disrespectful because he's a game general. Nay, he's a game commander. He is someone that can do everything. If you need him to be smart with the football, nobody's better. If you need him to take risks and be a downfield gunslinger, he's done that in his career.

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When I say it, I just mean decision maker. I know.

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And you're trying to, and I respect where you're coming. You're trying to change the stigma a little bit of game manager. But what Mahomes did again and seeing him, they ran, by the way, the same. Andy Reid, that son of a gun. They run the same play that they ran to get the big countdown to Tony in last year's Super Bowl, but substituting Tony a healthy scratch in this game with me, Cole Harbman, a guy that they said bye-bye who goes to the Jets, bombs out. They move him, and he lands with KC, and then makes one of the biggest catches in Super Bowl history. It's an amazing story. To see it right in front of us, it's a reminder, again, how lucky we are. Also, it's to see him running Mahomes through the back of the end zone and then up the far sideline. Just the first thing that came to my mind is this is the guy. I think when you look at what he's done now in seven years, and it said this during the week, Radio Row, that this was such a huge moment for Mahomes and Reid, for them now to both get another title.

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It's unreal, and he's absolutely in the conversation. Greatest of all time. I think he's 28 years old by kickoff next year.

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Yeah, he had that incredible 22-yard run that called back the run he had against the Eagles a year ago. And the wide-open Michal Hardman TD, this season, NGS noted that he had eight more touch downs to wide-open wide-receivers than anyone in the game. It's like they are scheming them up perfectly. It won them in the Super Bowl a year ago. It happened again today. And I'm with you. I just look at this team and it's like the way at the half, Travis Kelsey had one catch for one yard, and we were talking about the fact that he marched up to Andy Reid with vitriol and anger and shoved his coach. It's like that seemed like it could have become the story of the game if they continued to melt. Instead, that feels like 14 years ago at this point.

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Right. The second half starts with them throwing a pitch to Pacheco, and they take a 12-yard loss and a fumble. Then Mahomes throws one of the worst passes of his career for an interception. The Chief's defense was such a big part of this. We'll get to them. But the two turnovers that the Chiefs had, the Chief's defense then steps up with a three and out immediately and doesn't make it count. But while we're just talking Mahomes in the game management, it does feel inevitable that this all happened, and yet there were so many little parts of the game. When I'm thinking of that last drive, he the ball back in regulation needing three points, 153 to go, and they got the ball to the 49ers' 43 in no time at all, in less than a minute. That was where he was being patient. He was taking nine yards three yards, 12 yards, 8 yards. So he wasn't going for these chunk plays. He's taking what's there, but they did it very quickly. They got out of bounds. They didn't use their timeouts there. Then you get into overtime. A couple of different spots there. The third and sixth, the Rashi Rice.

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That was a really nice catch where Mahomes is under pressure. That was not a given. If they don't get that, you're at fourth and sixth with the season on the line. You have a fourth and 1. You need one yard, and the game stops, and we're like, What's Andy Reid going to do in this spot? He goes back to that Reid option. I think it was Chase Young that they took advantage. Cutty inside. The third and 1, he knows exactly when to scramble. Just every decision, even the Kelsey catch at the end of regulation that set up the chip shot. At that point, if they did not pick up that first down, that's a 50-yard field goal for Bucker just to keep the game alive with some time there. Each time, it's like, those were the passes that are exactly on the money. That's why he's the best player I've ever seen.

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Nextgen stats had an incredible stat on that Kelsey reception, that catch and run that he reached something about, I think, 19.8 miles per hour, the fastest he had run on a catch since 2018. What? That is adrenaline. That's the Super Bowl. It's just a different world. The The fact that Mahomes, when you talk about who's... And we don't want to overlook Tom braided, and I'm sure they're Patriots fans, yelling as they're listening. Shut up about Mahomes being the best ever because Mahomes wants seven. And Mahomes had massive moments like this, too, and that's true. So I really don't want to have that conversation. But I just want to point out that for Mahomes, the way he is so calm and collected in these spots, as Mahomes was, as Joe Montana was, that always sticks with me watching these games. There's not a moment of panic. Here is Patrick Mahomes on CBS after the game talking about where the Niners now are in history. And by the way, Patrick Mahomes, 7-0 in the playoffs over the last two years with two titles and 15-3 in his remarkable career seven seasons in. So is it a dynasty now?

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Yeah, it's the start of one. We're not done. I know we're going to celebrate tonight, celebrate the Pride Wednesday, Kansas City, but we're not done. We got a young team. We'll keep this thing going.

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I'd also say that Mahomes has won these Super Bowl where it's not the same star-studded lineup in each of these victories. It's different types of teams. I think you're right to call him a game manager in a positive sense in that he had to be a different type of quarterback with different players around him this season. Their defense, I think, saved them in the first half. Absolutely. I got them out of trouble. But it's like, look at who he's surrounded. If you were to pair these two teams and you were to put an offensive lineup of the All-Star team, it's heavily favoring the Niners, and it's not favoring the Chiefs. It doesn't really matter because Patrick Mahomes doesn't really care who's on the team.

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There's that one great throw he had to Hardman, which we had a great view. We watched this game in two different spots. We were in the auxiliary press box, which is basically up in the third deck for the first two and a half quarters of the game.Smashed.

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Together.right..

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That throw from that angle, actually, it was absolutely perfect to see that. He had no business throwing that ball because Hardman's bracket it on both sides, but it's such an impossible throw, and Hardman makes a different play. But other than that, you don't think of incredible athleticism in the way that we did in 2018 in his first season as a starter, 2019 when he won the Super Bowl for the first time. That's why you think Mahomes is thinking, Yeah, we're just getting started because this skill set where he's winning up here, along with that incredible arm he has,is going to age well.Are you doing it? What?

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He's reaching the point in his career when the mental side of things is catching up with the physical.

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That is it. Of course, Tom braided has accomplished the most ever. But no one in the history of the NFL had a first seven seasons of their career like Patrick Williams. It's not even close. It's not an argument. It's the best start to a season any player has ever had by far.

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We'll see. We don't know. You never know. This could be the last time he's ever on the stage. That way, the weird things have happened.

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But that's why I thought-Yeah, it's like an Adam Bob lands on the United States.

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I'm just saying, ask Dan Moreno in 1984, what he would have thought. There's many examples.

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But that's the difference between Dan Moreno's career, who was thought to be the best in a certain light. What Patrick Mahomes has done is completely unprecedented.

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It's remarkable. He finished 34 of 46, 333 yards, average 7.2 yards per attempt, two touch downs, that one ugly pick. Pass rating 99.3. I got to give credit to his receiver because they didn't build the best skill group around him this year. We know that. Even throughout the play-outs and even through certainly half of this game, It was apparent that they're still missing Tyree Kill or someone that can really make things easier for Patrick Mahomes, which makes his achievements even greater. But I looked down at you have Kelsey, even though he's one for one at the half, he finishes nine for 93 on 10 targets. But then he pretty much spreads it out. Three catches for Hardman, three for Justin Watson, six for 39 for Ruchie Rice, Pacheco has six for 33, Noah gray, two for 22, MVS, three catches, Jarrett McKinnon, two. I don't remember a drop in that.

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Yes, exactly.

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They put that script. Watson had one where the ball was a little behind him. I remember that play.

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But it was a clean performance by undercard type player.

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There's a certain ceiling with many of these guys, and maybe even with Kelsey at this point in his career. But they maxed out what they were able to do. I think you have to give them credit as well because it's not just Mahomes. The Rasha Rice catch in overtime is a perfect example. Was it overtime or the end of the fourth quarter?

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That was overtime.

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That ball could have went through his It was up there. It was a little heater. The pressure's at the highest levels, and these guys made the catches and got it done. A great performance by the offense after a slow start, and the defense did what the defense did all year long.

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A couple of plays before that, Nicole Hardman game winner, there was the Kelsey catch right up the gut of the field where it looked like he had one or two yards, and he just barreled and created a pile and went right down to the goal line almost. It's like, Kelsey is part of this, too. It's like his fastest run time comes in this game after we were saying he lost a step all year long. It's like everything that we were complaining about and feeling nagged about with the Chiefs just vanished in last month.

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That's what the great teams do. They have that extra year.

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He had a couple of crucial third down conversions. So did Rice. I was I enjoyed, though, that that, Kelsey, play in the red zone where they almost won the Super Bowl there. I had the phone up. We got a great spot. This is the game day morning spot that they tape that during the show. I had my phone up for that play, and I was like, Oh, this is going to be amazing. Kelsey's going to win the Super Bowl. That didn't happen. Then forgot to have it up for the Nicole Hardman Super Bowl winning play.

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I had it. I'll send it to you, buddy.

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I got you.

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Just to correct you, it's around the NFL set where Game Day morning filmed earlier today. Well done.

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That's a great point.

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In fact, in the back of my chair, there's a piece of tape that says Rich on it. If we could get Dan put over the Rich tape, I would appreciate that Eric over there in the corner.

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You mentioned Spagnolo, them doing it like they did it all season. I think of a couple of plays in this game for Spagnolo to do what he did all season, two monster third downs. It's a two-minute warning in regulation. It's almost easy to forget now. It feels a long time ago. The score is 16-16. It's third and four. The 49ers have the ball. If the 49ers get four yards on that play, they win the Super Bowl, very likely. I mean, the Heese could have used all their timeouts, and they could have gotten no yards. Maybe it doesn't happen. But basically, it's third and four. You get just four yards. You don't need a touch down on the play, and you win the Super Bowl. Spag sends pressure there. It's Trent McDuffie. He gets in clean. It felt like Trent McDuffie was blitzing this whole game. They blitz more than 50% of the time. He gets out there right away. Purdy really has no chance on that play. Great job. Then in overtime, Purdy makes a couple of great plays on that Nice throws. Had a hesitation where he got Karloff to sign him, got him down to the 15.

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I thought Purdy was fine in this game. He played well. Third and four. Again, sees it on the line. Can you stop them from getting a countdown? Chris Jones gets in totally clean.They sent the house. All game. Who is that on? Is it on the 49ers coaches? Is it on Purdy? Is it on the offensive line? Or is it just giving Spagnola the credit for winning in big spots? I'm not smart enough to really know, but I do know Spagnola won in those spots. Purdy had a wide open receiver on that play that he had no chance to get it to because the pressure was on him right away. That wins the Super Bowl. That's the difference between winning and losing.

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There were a couple of huge plays like that, and they had 11 hurries, and a bunch of those came from defensive backs, and we've been seeing that from Spags all year long. I don't know if it went on. We had Colleen Wolf down on the field, the first person she interviewed with Spags. It's like, by the way, this is like, I'm not calling it a Ryan moment with Ditga, but it's like, he is the reason they got here just as much as the offense.

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It still scratch my head why no one even snipped around him as a head coach. When you talk about, and we can talk about this at the end of the show. I think that's ages.I think it's a good way to... All right. Well, Bill Belchick doesn't have a job either. When we talk about some legacy stuff and what the Chiefs can do going forward, we'll get to that because Spags is coming back, as is Reid, as is Mahomes, as is Kelsey. Some stats about this Chief's defense, and then we'll take a break and we'll do a little talk from the Niners side of things. Brock Purdy completed 12-19 attempts against the Blitz for 131 on a countdown. He got sacked once. The Chiefs Defense Blitz, as you said, Greg, on 51.2% of dropbacks, their fourth highest rate, and game under Spag. They turned up the heat in a big way in this game. And one more stat from NextGen, the Chief's defense generated a season high, nine unblocked pressures in Super 58, all of which came on blitzes. So obviously, the game plan was to get after Purdy. And I thought it was notable late in the game a couple of times when Spag held back the dogs, that led to some things that were fortuitous for San Francisco.

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Third and twelve in overtime. You're right. He didn't send it, and that helped lead the 49ers. Those numbers, they sound decent from Purdy. He avoided mistakes. I think he played well enough to win. I saw a take afterwards. It was like, Chanahan needs a better quarterback to get over the hum. I'm This is not the game for it. No. They had this game. Not that their offense played great, but to me, that was more about the coaching. Maybe when Purdy is in his eighth year, he'll be able to fix protections in a way that he can't. It's hard to say, but that's a 4.5 yards per attempt on those throws plus the sack. That is an extremely low number for a guy who set the NFL record for yards per attempt this season.

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All right, let's take a break. When we return, yes, we'll continue to churn through and dig through Super Bowl 58. I look back on the field behind us, and there's still, I don't know, I'm going to say about 500 people littered on the field, confetti everywhere, but it's starting to die down.

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We got Taylor Swift out there.

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Wait, is that Chris Berman literally live on television on a set like 50 yards away from us? Maybe even less than that. That's how close we are to be in Chris Berman, for you to really be in the next Chris Berman.

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That's the goal in every way. I want to be Chris Berman. All right, let's take a break. We'll be right back. Second and 10, Niners up 3-0. Kourtie going to throw a double pass back to Jowan Jennings. A throwback across the field to McCafree. He's got it. 20, 10, 5. Touchdown. San Francisco. Cmc enter the dragon, baby. 6 points on a trick play. Oh, man. Better times for the 49ers on Super Bowl Sunday. Christian McCaffrey, the 21-yard pass from Jouan Jennings, who was shaping up as a potential Super Bowl MVP for a bit in this game. It didn't work out. Obviously, that was the call from Greg Papa and Tim Ryan of KNBR. That play put the Niners up 10-0 in this game. As Mark pointed out, that is a double-digit lead that the Niners and Kyle Shanaher in his career, it's haunting. It's haunting, and it's another haunting loss for the 49ers, another gut punch loss for the 49ers who did a lot of things right in this game. But once again, when it was time to close the game out, when it was time to put your foot on the throat of the Chiefs.

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They kept on letting them off the hook. They let them hang around, and eventually it got them beat.

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They did. It's got to be gut-wrenching for Niners fans to process this because it's a team that went three for twelve on third down, and it really showed. I thought that they just didn't make enough of their opportunities to go into halftime up just 10 to 3:00. It should have been more. We were up there when we were higher up in the stadium thinking, there were multiple times where you could have slashed the neck of the Chiefs, and they just could not do it. Their defense, though, after a couple of weeks of the defense being the focal point and the problem, played a great game early on. They really did. It's the offense I thought that came out, and you mentioned, is it coaching? What was it? Because it's not just on Brock Purdy. But they come out of the second half of halftime with three fizzle-out punts. It's like that's where in that intermittent time, the Chiefs started warming up. I want to point to one moment, too, late in the game where it was actually in overtime. I want to ask your opinion because it's that third and four play where Purdy is pressured on his pass, and it's incomplete.

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It's a Chris Jones pressure that I think absolutely sets up a Shana Han moment for the age is. Let's listen to that call.

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Mccafly comes in notion. They fake the jet to him. Purdy throws it hot and throws his receiver incomplete. Big time rush, Chris Jones. Jennings was the intended receiver, but Purdie had to just get rid of the football. Now what does San Francisco do? This is interesting at fourth and fourth.

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Chris Jones, team high, 6 pressures on the game. A game changer right there. I mean, today's NFL. It's then fourth and 4 on the KC9, and they kick the field goal, which is a very Shana Han lever pull right there. Part of me was like, Wait a minute. You could leave the Chiefs on their nine-yard line if you go for it and you don't get it. But do you not just go for it and sink a knife into the Chief's heart right here? Instead, they go for the field goal, and there's plenty of time left for the Chiefs to come back at that point. Right.

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That's OT, and it really brings up this idea that I think in the analytical communication community would be the rule book, which would be you would defer in overtime, so that you know what the other team does, because the playoff overtime rules are different than regulation. Each team is guaranteed a possession, even if you give up a countdown. In that spot, you'd almost love to know if you needed a shutdown or not. Now, he could have been bold and just gone for it. I'm with you because what are the odds we're going to stop the Chiefs anyways? We need touch downs. One of the reasons they were in this game is because Kyle Shanahan did a very uncyle Shanahan move, and he did go for it on fourth and 3, down three points.

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That blew my mind. I know we're living in a Dan Campbell world now. This is supposed to always be, Oh, the bot says you go for it. But it takes a serious amount of onions. I got to give the... I thought it was the wrong move, but they have a fourth and 3 at the Kansas City 15 with 12:46 to play. They're losing by three points in the Super Bowl, and they go for it, and they draw up the play that they treasure most, and it's the safest play in their mind, the play that will absolutely get it done. It was Brock Purdy to George Kittle, who was quiet this game and exited in an overtime with a shoulder issue. For four yards, they Take it up. That sets up the Juan Jennings' countdown. Let's listen to that countdown by Jennings. Purdy in the shotgun, McCafee left.

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Jennings outside of Ute Wright.

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Ute's check in Kittle or tight left. Purdy back. Purdy throws in his by Jouan Jennings, breaks a tackle. Touchdown! San Francisco! The savior, Jowan Jennings. The savior. Would it dart? Versus tight man coverage. And Jowan is able to shake loose to that first tackle, reignite, and then punch it into the end zone. And that was what, Mark, one of the multiple chances, both early in the game where it was like you could really jumped out to a dominating type lead or late in the game where it's in your hands now. And in that case, you're now winning because you took the chance and you're rewarded with the countdown. You're winning in the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl. It's close-out time. Yet, time and time again, in the San Francisco 49ers history in the last 15 years, they just can't find a way.

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Well, we were in the end zone for this, and I recorded that Jennings' shutdown thinking, Now, that's an interesting moment to have on tape. But then I press pause and stop recording. The PAT is blocked. Yes. That makes it 16, 13 when it would have been… Then you're forcing the Chiefs to go score a touch on at that point.

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I don't want to get on Moody because Moody also, for a brief time, for about an hour and a half, had the all-time record for longest field goal before Harrison Bucker bested him. But the PAT getting blocked there, immediately you're thinking, How does that happen? It wasn't like a breakdown in the blocking. It was a low kick. A P-A-T has to go higher. That's Moody who, if you listen to this show, under the radar, X Factors, was the kicking game and how that would potentially play out. That, instead of being a four-point game, being a three-point game, really set the table in a lot of ways for everything that happened after. San Francisco mistakes, and Niners fans know it. It was really as someone, again, it's always bitter sweet going to these Super Bowl because I always think about what it would be like if my team was ever here and how stressful. I had this knot in my stomach being 10 feet away from a largely 49 49ers contingent. You could say people say, Oh, the 49ers fans, they've had so much to celebrate, and they have had a lot of success. But we're going on over a quarter century since they won a Super Bowl.

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You're like a 35-year-old. That's what I mean. You didn't experience anything.

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Everyone in that section in front of me, for the most part, looked like guys and women that were in their 30s, 20s, 40s. To not be able to get it done once again. When you think about, again, Block P-A-T, a muff punt that sets up the Kansas City countdown. On a game where before that happened, it wasn't clear that the Chiefs were ever going to score a countdown because they looked a lot like the Christmas Chiefs, like the December Chiefs on offense until they got set up on a short field, and that kicked them into high gear. Then, Greg, zero points off two Kansas City turnovers. There were so many opportunities, and they just let these opportunities go to waste. When you do that against Mahomes, it may sound like a cliché, but you just know you're asking for it.

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You can break down this game in so many different ways to fit whatever narrative that you want to have. The 49ers defense, in the end, couldn't get it done. They couldn't get a stop to win the Super Bowl. But the first nine possessions of the game for the Chiefs resulted in six points. Nine possessions is sometimes the whole game. If your defense plays well enough to give up six points in nine possessions, and you're the 49ers, and granted, it's against the Chiefs usually, but that is often a 23 to 6 win, and the game's already over. You fault the offense, certainly for not taking advantage more during that stretch of the game. But I don't want to hear anyone actually come after the offense in purdy for not coming up big enough in the biggest moment, because the reality is they got the ball in the fourth quarter trailing, and they went and scored a shutdown with a fourth down conversion. Then they got the ball back again in a in the game in the fourth quarter in the Super Bowl with 5:46 to go. You're thinking, Oh, this is legacy drive. This is Brock Purdy.

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Can you do it? He had a couple of very nice plays on that drive. You obviously would have loved to pick up that third down I talked about earlier, and the drive stalls, but you did get a field goal to take the lead in the Super Bowl in the fourth quarter when he absolutely needs it. You get the ball in overtime. It's the same thing again. I thought that was going to be the CMC drive. Cmc ends this game with 160 yards and a shutdown on 30 touches, and that shows his value. And yet in terms of running the ball, they didn't really get into a great rhythm the whole game until that drive. It's sometimes these little plays. He had a second and four inside the 10. I think it was Trevail Wharton and Mike Panell, their deep backup, stop him there. At that point, they decide to throw it on the next plate. It's like, if he kept rolling there, if they block a little better there, they get a third and one or they keep running. I thought in overtime, he was just going run the ball down the field, which is CMC.

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We've seen them have those drives, and they just come up a play short. It's hard to kill any one particular part of the team.

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I don't think the offense played well enough, though, San Francisco, ultimately.

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In the final four quarters.

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When you look at this game, you kept on waiting. Where was that big chunk play? Where was the huge Aiyug play? The huge Debo play? Kittle. Where was Kittle most of this game? Cmc was workmanlike, and I had a lot of respect for him because by the end of that game, you could tell he He's hurting because he getting 30 touches in the Super Bowl at the end of a long season.

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These two teams look so tired in person, both of them. I kept on waiting for McCafree, even on that last drive, and they could have won the Super Bowl, potentially.

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Although KC is going to get a chance to get the ball because the overtime rules are different, which is stupid to me. Why can't they be uniform? Mccafree could never make that one extra guy miss to go 50 yards. The explosive nature to their offense was missing. I think Purdy plays a role in that, too. He didn't hit on a couple of throws as well. They were just missing that little extra special something. That a Kyle Shannon play call or with that amount of talent, we were just missing that special play.

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I think they ran into a defensive scheme that figured out how to put pressure on Purdy, how to make things difficult, take those big plays away. On that overtime drive where they go up at the field goal, and we've broken down the end of that, remember how it started? It was like it was very quickly, suddenly they were at third and 15, and Purdy throws a wobbling incomplete pass, but then defensive holding, but reopens the door. It wasn't a bad call necessarily. It's not that. It's just that one mistake by the Chiefs. Otherwise, this game could have been over about 15 to 20 minutes earlier.

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To your point, Dan, on not getting the big plays. Iuk, six targets, only 49 yards long of 20. Debo, 11 targets. Man, I wouldn't have guessed this watching it live. I wasn't box score tracking that closely. 33 yards on three catches long of 12.

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Was not healthy in the second half of the game at a ham string.

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The most open guys in the game were a couple of big plays by Conley and McLeod, actually. Those are their two star wide receivers, and then Kittle ends up with four yards on three targets. It is hard to win that way. They had some next Gen stats here during the game, and it was really interesting how-Shout out Bill Smith and next-gen stats. Absolutely. Getting it done. The average contested catches in terms of the percentage of throws that were into tight windows. The Chiefs actually had far more throws that were into wide open receiver than the 49ers who had very few throws that were open, which is not what you think. Again, that's a credit to the Chiefs defense.

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There was this one mysterious injury in the middle of the game early on where you lose Dre Greenlaw. As he's coming out on the field, he tears his Achilles. That was awful. Dre Greenlaw is... The 49ers allowed the fewest yards per attempt on targets over the middle third of the field. Since drafting Warner in 2018. That's Greenlaw as well. It's like to lose Greenlaw there was, I think, a secret disaster for the Niners.

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Some of those rice catches, I think about Noah gray catches had a couple. That's right where Dre is.

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And watching that, and we're way up in the in a domicillary box and have no access to television. It's a bit of a weird experience on some levels when you're watching the game in person.

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We had no Internet for half the game.

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No Internet for half the game. Then when you check your phone and you see Dre Greenlaw is just bouncing on the balls of his feet on the sidelet, he went in to take the field. I think it was maybe the second possession of the game. It was early, yeah. He goes to plant and the Achilles just goes, which is just unbelievable. You feel snakebit a little bit if you're the Niners at this point. Here's Kyle Shanaher, who, like we said, Just like we talked about with Lamar. I know it's annoying to Lamar and me and everybody else, but you don't get to stop talking about the thing until you get that thing off your back, and it's the monkey of, Are you a champion? Are you not? Here's Kyle, once again, falls just short on the loss. We all hurt. Everyone knows how it feels, and don't have a lot of words for it, but obviously, we're hurting. Our team's hurting, but that's how it goes when you put yourself out there. I'm real proud of our guys for no regress with our team. I thought our guys played so hard today. Not everything was perfect by no means, but I'm going to lose with a group of guys.

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It's good with those guys anytime. We'll take some time. We'll get over this, and come back next year ready to go.

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You can hear in his voice the true emotion in the raw nature of getting this far again. It's like even when they've bowed out in the NFC title game, they've been brutal losses where they've been close and you look back and think to yourself, last year was injuries, obviously, but in other years, it's just like, Oh, a couple of plays here or there, and this game is littered with that sense of what could have been had just a few moments gone differently for the Niners. And it's like, Dan, we've now been to, and you as well, Greg, but it predates you on by one year that we saw them lose in bitter fashion to the Ravens way back when.Different team, obviously.I.

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Was there with you.

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You were there with me. You got to space this. A few weeks ago, you actually had West there with a very distinct memory with West there.

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West not there, but I was there with you.Don't turn 50.That was my first time.

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I knew it. I was thinking all these vivid memories from that week.

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Don't turn 50. We had great time.

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The one week, a couple of years ago against the Chiefs, it's like, You're up by 10 late in the game, and then they lose, and then Corona happens, and you're back here, and you can change everything if you're Shana Hand. To flip it with Mahomes, it's the third time he's been up by 10, whether it's a coordinator or a coach, and there you go.

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Here's more sound. Here's Shana Hand and why they decided to take the ball first, considering the new playoff overtime rules. It's just something we talked about. None of us have a ton of experience of it, but we went through all the analytics and talked to those guys, and we just thought it'd be better. We wanted the ball third. If both teams matched and scored, we wanted to be the ones who had the chance to go win. We got that field goal, so we knew we had to hold them to a least to a field goal. If we did, then we thought it was in our hands after that.

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It doesn't really answer the question. I honestly think that it's going to be one of those things, and I forget who was the team. I want to say it was the Patriots, and then everyone just started deferring a game of games. I do think people will start do that in playoff over. It's not that you're going to have a huge sample size. It just makes too much sense. I'm not going to kill Kyle Shane, and I don't think it's the difference in this game. You could have made an argument that it helps the defense get a little bit of a rest. Certainly, that Chief's defense looked tired on that drive, but I do think it was an advantage for Kansas City. Look, they had a fourth and 1 in their own end. Does Andy Reid definitely go for that? Probably if it's the first possession. But no, he knows he needs to get a score in that drive, and it helped them out.

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All right, let's take a break. When we get back, we'll dig into more about this game, what we saw and what it means for these teams going forward and everything else. Do some housekeeping. Stay right there. More talk coming up next.

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Can I tell a quick funny story?

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Please. I threw a countdown to this dude at the end of the game, and he looked at me, and he had no idea.

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I said, Dude, we just won the Super Bowl. He said he blacked out.

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He had no idea.

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I was like, Bro, what? Because he didn't even celebrate at the beginning.

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I'm like, What are we doing?

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Well, I think you were talking about, Okay, it's time to celebrate now.

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There it is. Nfl Network, Chris Rose with the interview, Mahomes. Why does this always happen? I feel like this happens every other year. Major sports moments in different sports, and guys achieve greatness and don't even know the game is over.

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Why are the rules so unclear? I'm also surprised that there wouldn't have been a conversation in the huddle like, We can win this right now if we get this thing done. It was just that conversation, obviously. But we were watching Michal Hartman make the catch, and it is absolutely true that in live-action, his body language was like, Great that I scored a shutdown, but there's probably more to go in this game. It's like, No, the game is over. Then suddenly everyone's running towards him. You could see the reaction. It was just like…

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Probably a pretty amazing feeling when they're like, Bro, it's over. We just won the Super Bowl. I was like, Oh.

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You just caught the game-winning countdown in the Super Bowl.

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How is it all? Are you processing all that in the course of five seconds after all that?

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No matter what happens for the rest of your life, me, Cole Hardman, you could be happy that you got traded back to the Chiefs or whatever happened for a disaster. For the rest of your life, you will be a game-winning star.

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By the way, spare me all the mentions. It's so fun being a Jet fan, by the way. All the mentions like, I can't believe you let that guy go. He is comfortably on the teet of the greatest quarterback who's ever lived. Good for him. Bullied a me, Cole. I'm happy for him. But the idea that we let a great one get away. It's great that mecole is back with the Chiefs because that means he's back with Patrick O'Homes, who's allowing them to have great moments.

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What clown is wasting their time tweeting that at you?

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Have you ever been on Twitter?

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No, I have. It's a terrible place. It's a wretched world.

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I think Michal being the type of guy who didn't know it's the end of the Super Bowl when he just won the Super Bowl is one of the reasons why he might not be there.

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If you love that joke, how about the 400 bozos that sent me the joke last Thursday? Oh, wait. So a guy almost dying on the field isn't as hard as coming back from playing quarterback for the Jets. Nice one. Another Joe Flacko burn against the Jets. That is funny. You shouldn't have won. All right, let's see. Let's do some odds and some thoughts, some takeaways. I'll start with... I Got to give some love to Chris Jones. I don't write the Free Agency 101, but maybe I'll have some conversations with the editor. Maybe a little power play on Rosenthal.Oh.

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You just got to swipe it?A.

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Little swipe it.

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We did have our own at one point. You and I had our own list.

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Okay, We're not taping any shows next week. The 101 is due the Wednesday following that. So I just want you to know that.I'm on it. I'm on it.

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A little palace intrig. I'm coming for the 101, but Chris Jones will be the number one player on that list. Chris Jones, when it's all said and done, whether it's Kansas City that signs him, I don't know how they... Listen, I never try to figure out how a salary cap works, but if you have a $500 million quarterback, I don't care how the contract spread out. Chris Jones, I think, is going to be the highest paid defensive player in the history the sport when he gets his deal, right? If not, he'll be very close. If not, he'll be about it. He showed you in this game why he'll be worth every penny because he was a constant menace. We talked about the play where he might have saved the season with his pressure of Brock Purdy. Time and time again, he was ruining. You were watching one of the cool things about being at the game. You could get the all 22 in real-time. There were multiple plays where it felt like Purdy, if he just had that extra beat, was going to hit some of those big plays I talked about were missing, and they were missing in large part because Chris Jones is an absolute menace to society and just getting after in the backfield.

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I don't know what his final numbers were. It wasn't like one of those. He had four sacks or anything, but that's why it goes a little deeper than that. He was constantly in the backfield and making plays.

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When you look at the Chief's playoff wins over the last four years, in almost all of them, Chris Jones made some massive play on third down to end the drive to win the game. To me, he's like a rich man's Donta Hightower, who always stepped up in the absolute biggest spot. He was a good player that went to a great player in the playoffs. Chris Jones is a great player that goes to a first ballot Hall of Famer in the playoffs, and that's what he'll who you end up being now because of everything he's done. They're in the regular season, but especially in these moments.

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Yeah, and that's one reason as we head into the offseason, within the narrative's change and what we focus on changes. Last September 11th, he ended his holdout. I don't know why I spent five minutes talking about his holdout. There's no way he was not going to play for the Chiefs this year.

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I remember us being, we were pretty smart about how we handled the Chris Jones holdout. We didn't waste a lot of conversation about it.

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We were, but it's still a conversation point.

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Here's a stat point backing up how dominant he was, even if it didn't register in certain categories. Per next Gen stats, again, Jones generated a team high six pressures on 35 pass rushes, three of which occurred in under 2.5 seconds. So just pretty snaps the ball. He's not even to the back of his drop, and he's already being swarmed and almost maimed by this fearsome player who's one of the best in the league.

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In all-timer. Like Andy Reid. I thought it was really interesting that Kelsey immediately started talking three feet after the game. It crossed my mind. Could Kelsey retire? Sometimes this season, he's moving slowly, he's getting up slowly. Forget that. Reid obviously made it clear that he's not going to.

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I know numbers-That's did Clark Hunt after the game. That he was...

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What do you say? That was one of my How much props was it? Oh, no, it wasn't. No, it was my hot prediction for nfl. Com that Reid or Kelsey would retire. It's like, bury that prediction.

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Clark Hunt, quote, fully expects Andy Reid to return.

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Reid's not going to pass Belichick or... I don't know. Labardi in terms of Super Bowl titles. I don't know. But if he wants to coach for a long time, he can make a run at the wins. And considering the influence he's had on offenses in this league, he is getting pretty high up there in the greatest all-time coaches.

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Yeah, I was going to mention him, too, because it reminds me... There's different versions of Andy Reid, the same way we talk about Tom braided and Bill Belichick in different eras of their career. And it reminds me of when you were a kid and you learned that Abraham Lincoln lost eight elections and failed a business twice before he finally won. Andy Reid went 20 seasons before winning a Super Bowl. I'll flip it around and I'll look at Kyle Shanaher and say, How do you come back from this? It's like, Kyle keeps getting there, and it's tough to come back. There's going to be a lot of questions about what they do and what happens with Brock Purdy and all that stuff. I think he absolutely, to me, is the dug-in starter. I want to hear a lot of nonsense around that. But Andy Reid, you go back to some dark times with the Eagles and was essentially escorted out by the Eagles in the end, goes to Kansas City and like, Look where we are now.

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There's all these so many people everywhere you look. Every time you turn when you're at a Super Bowl weekend, it's somebody that you watch on TV or have been watching your whole life. Sal Pal Antonio of ESPN We shared an elevator with him up to the auxiliary box here in the stadium this morning. I told him that I had a memory, and Sal has been covering the NFL forever for ESPN. He covered the Eagles. He was their reporter during their McNab glory years. I remember a cold January, them throwing to Sal when they had lost multiple NFC title games. They were trying to get over the pump, and he was trying to explain how important it was for Philadelphia Andy Reid to finally get to a Super Bowl, which they did. They lost the pats. But that was Reid's legacy for a long time that he got close but couldn't get over the top. Now all he does is get over the top. You say he's not going to catch Belichick. Belichick has what? Six? Yeah. Okay. I'm just saying he's halfway there and he's got a Patrick Mahomes. That's so hard. He's 27 years old.

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Fair. Stranger Things. Stranger Things have happened.

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That's all I'm going to say. If you don't have Patrick Mahomes, maybe you do retire. I mean, now it's like, why stop doing this at all?

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You never know.

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This is a random odd, but just being live, the British TikTok guy was right. We got to do something about these kickoffs. The whole stadium is so live. It suddenly goes from all this noise to this great hush. Right before the opening kickoff, it's so tense, and it's just like, Oh, here's a play that doesn't even count. And then there's like 45 seconds of just around. It's like such a waste of time. Overtime is going crazy, and we're all excited. Before overtime, the 49ers fans are going wild, and then they line up for the kickoff, and, oh, wait, here's a play that actually doesn't count unless it's take a 45-second break. It's legit bad for the sport. They got to eliminate the kickoff or they got to change back the rules to make it happen again.

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I like Greg has found a new campaign. I like this. It's a fresh new campaign.

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If you eliminate the kickoff, you might as well not call it football anymore. You got to have kickoffs. You want to talk about something parallel to this? They ruin the onside kick, and I know I know, and this is where people are like, Tisk, tisk, you don't support player safety. It's like, calm down, first of all.

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These guys are coming at you, too.

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Get off your soapbox, okay, White Knight. Get off your shiny horse. I don't want to hear it. There's one thing to promote player safety and try to figure out ways to make the game safer. But if it comes at the expense of the product in the obvious way it does, like the kickoff and how it's drawing energy out of the game and it makes the game worse, maybe there's another way to go about it. I'm fine Just started the 25-yard line.

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At least we'd have a play.

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Then why don't we just make an arena football? It's making 150 yards.

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Something like visually-Arresting about it. The stadium came to a hush, and I thought that… The stadium experience… This is an incredible stadium, and it's really well organized. But one comment I thought, by halftime, and I get the fans didn't have a lot to cheer about, and it got really loud at the end, but it just seemed almost not Super Bowl-like to me the first half.

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The game flow was herky-jerky early on. Not There's a lot of scoring. There's extra commercials, but I felt the same way. You had a DJ here, DJ Eric, our resident clubhead.

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It was Cascade, no DJ.Cascade..

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You like Cascade? Where does he rank on your DJ power?

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He's maybe top 10 for me personally. Did you go out this week and hear any DJ sets? No, I had an invite to the Gronk Beach party. Didn't make it to that.

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Too busy to go to the Gronk Beach party.

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It was a busy week, guys. Busy week.

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I was heading the.

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Robert has killed it this week. But I was talking to Eric. We did a walk around the upper deck here before the game started, and Eric was telling me about his club days, which we can't get into too much detail.

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Cascade, very good DJ. Top 10 for me, but not my style of music I was going to be going to.

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We didn't get Tiesto. No. That's a shame.

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Tiesto had a family emergency.

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Yes, which I always assume is something other than that.

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A little less intrusive than the Rams DJ. Oh, that's-Yeah.

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If I could take a note or two from this.

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Screaming in your ear Every five seconds. I felt like there have been in recent Super Bowl's buildings that were going a little harder, but I think the game flow had a lot to do with that because in the second half in overtime, the place was going off. It got rowdy. Speaking of families in crisis or family emergencies, how about the family is connected to those guys that ran on the field? How do you get onto the field in the Super Bowl in 2024?

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I'll tell you why, though. I think you can because it's not like there was insane security down here. He came out on this back corner end a little bit, right?

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Okay, hold that back.

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He did notice that they weren't checking to go down to the seats.

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I have more thoughts. Here's Kevin Harland, who has the iconic, The guy is drunk. So he had an opportunity. I have not heard this. No one's heard this yet. Harland calling in real-time. Two fans, not one, but two, running on the field in the second quarter of Super Bowl 58. The ball was caught and the gain was to the 39. I love Harland. And they have stopped play with security all over the interlopers. Interlopers. Interlopers is such an underrated-He is a poet. Underrated. So here's the thing. How much does it cost to go to a game, the Super Bowl? A couple of thousand bucks, 3,000, 10,000. So if somebody dropped the money to get into the building with the sole intention, unless it was something that was not premeditated, to get arrested? That's a Wild. You don't talk about all-time bad decisions.

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Right. Or maybe the guy was drunk. The guy is drunk. But you're right. Unless there was some other plot, I want to hear more about this.

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It was two guys.

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It was two guys. So it was a conspiracy. Maybe it's one of these things like the Watergate break, and where somehow someone opened a back door and then came these two guys without tickets. They weren't people that spent 20 grand.

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That was a little extra entertainment. The other one I'll throw out there is the halftime show. I like to touch on the halftime show on this wrap It was fine. I thought Usher was fine. I gave it a solid B. He did, I think, one of the moves you see with a halftime show sometimes is if you don't have a certain extra gear to make it truly special, and very few artists do, like Prince, for instance, playing Purple Rain in the Rain. If you don't have that, not to say I don't love, yeah. You get Ludacris out there doing, yeah, I'm Lil John. That was the heart of it. But I think sometimes you'll see this halftime, Axel, just throw something against the wall. It's like, All right, throw 500 people out there at the same time. Put everybody on roller skates and then get the band back there and then have 700 more people come from all directions. It's like they're trying to spam you with... I would say While it was an impressive coordination, I would give it a B.

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It was a B. I turned to Greg, because I'm not a big usher person. I was like, Greg, honest question, was that good? I just don't know what that was.

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I was like, Yes, I I think it was good. He danced his ass off. He worked a lot harder, certainly. His bot is looking great. He did look good. He worked hard. My timeline couldn't have loved it more. I think if you were... It actually might be... His peak, I feel like, even though we were in our young 20s, I feel like if you're like 35 to 40, your peak, people were loving it. It's fine. It's fine.

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It's fine. That's what I said. I saw people calling it...That's what I said.I said it was fine.I.

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Saw people calling it the best halftime show ever, and that's what threw me. I'm like, That's not what I watch.

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Those are simple folk that just see, Oh, there's a thousand people on the field.

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No, but they're just usher fans. How do you know? How do you know who said that? I think if you like usher, this was an incredible-How are you so certain about everything, Greg? Because everyone on Twitter that I'm following that loved it was just talking about-So does the world end with everyone that you follow on Twitter? Is that what this is?

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That's what we're basing it on, yeah, pretty much.

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This is our Super Bowl. We're going here with our Super Bowl. It's part of the Super Bowl.

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It's the spectacle of it all.

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No, but I thought it was fine. What would you give it?

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Go ahead. Give me a grade. 8 out of 10. Okay. All right, give us another odds in it. One quick thing is the Kelsey bumping Reid because I believe he was mad that he wasn't on the field. I'm glad it worked out. That way, if Andy Reid was not a man of his carriage, if he was, let's say, Mike McDaniels size. He gone.

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He's hit in the ground. No, he's not gone. He's hit in the ground, and it's a bigger deal, and it looks worse.

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It's a massive... It's a story that maybe wins the sandwich prop, which we'll get to in a little bit. I'm glad it wasn't a big deal. It's football. It's emotional. He shouldn't have done it, but it's also everyone's fine with it. But I saw E. J. Brown tweet out, If that was me, I would have been kicked out of the league, which he's got a little bit of a tongue in cheek, but I think he has a point. If A. J.

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Brown did that, if Stefan Diggs did that, if Terrell Owens did that, people's reaction would have been different. Just remember that and keep that same energy when people that are really passionate and love the game lose it a little bit. Have the same grace for them that you have for Travis. I totally agree. I think there was licensed because it was Kelsey. Then after the game, Reid and Kelsey are up on the stage together, and Kelsey is leading the entire crowd in Viva Las Vegas.

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It's all very Kelsey-ish, and it works, except that moment feels lost in time. I'm sure Reid and Kelsey will be fine and call it competitive nature, all that stuff. But it's like, you can't do that to your own coach. I'm not trying to be overly officious about it. Here's a funny thing. Lost in all the week-long run up to the game where it just gets exhaustive and all these guys are forced to talk over and over and over again. Someone asked, I think it was Mahomes at media night, opening night, Are you Coach Reid's favorite? They asked, Kelsey, the same thing, and they asked some of the other guys, Who's Coach Reid's favorite? A lot of the guys are saying, Kelsey. Then they asked Mahomes, and he disputed. He's like, No, I'm Coach Reid's favorite. He pointed out it was almost like the... Usually, it's the younger brother, but in this case, it's the older brother that just gets away with murder. He doesn't put in... Mahomes, to make his point, was saying he always shows up just in time. I'm in the building for hours before he gets there. He's always acting up and he talks too much and all this stuff.

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Travis Kelsey is... It's spoken out loud around that she's a pain in the ass, but because he is who he is, that also leads to him getting grace. So, yes, it's a good thing Andy didn't take a spill, or that would have been a huge story.

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I I don't know how the TV feed handled the Taylor Swift thing.

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I'm sure there was a lot of it, but I did enjoy the moment when they go up to her, and there was a lot here in the stadium.

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She's just chugging a beer like a pro. She's with the right boyfriend for that because he can do that as well with quite a bit of skill. You know who's Jason? Kelsey is in our hotel.Right.He walked out.Probably there right now.Oh, my God. No, he's going to the Chief's party. True. You know once upon a time in Hollywood when you see the Margot Robbie character?Sharon Tate.Sharon Tate and Roman Polansky returning to LAX. It's the slow motion tracking shot of them, and they're the most fabulous couple possible, and it's famed personified. That's what It's not like being right behind Jason, Kelsey, leaving the hotel on the way to get in our car to come to the stadium. The guy is a rock star.

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Who has enjoyed a better run in terms of celebrity than Travis's brother? Really, both Kelsey brothers. We saw their producer and our former producer TD in the lobby, and that was a nice thing, too.

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I guess we're connected. We are. It's going to be a tough time for them when we create one of the larger upsets in media and win the iHeartRadio Sports podcast of the year, knocking out the Kelsey brothers.

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That's Super Bowl 3. If we could do that. Td, he was our producer back when we played that clip with Chris eating the softball pants back in the day. He went and got all the meal. It all connects. All right, let's take one more break.

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When we come back, some final thoughts, and we'll go over our locks and our sandwich props.

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Cheese's Kingdom. You all hear this? We've been fighting for all right all day. How about a little, Viva, Las Vegas. Viva, Las Vegas.

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Viva, Viva, Las Vegas. Oh, God. Oh, God.

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A nightmare. There it is. Krabs-kelsey on the field with CBS. Jim, and by the way, Nance, come on, bud. It's this media thing, taboo thing, to ask him about Taylor face-to-face or even mention her. When he's singing, you can make a little joke there like, Oh, maybe Taylor will have you on the next album. Then have him, Jim, a rare drop of the ball. Then he forces as a follow-up question at the end, Okay, now sing the Beastie Boys song for the 7,000th time. We don't need it, Jim. It's a missed opportunity by a pro.

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I'm curious where CBS, because again, we didn't get the telecast, I'm curious how much restraint they showed with Taylor Swift or whether they were all about it.

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But we had some boots on the ground. We have a new Rising Insider on the videographer ranks. You want to get into that? Yeah, the weekend got going with my son, Luke. I didn't even know this existed, but he has got into something called plane spotting, where we live near LAX There's a number of places you can go and just you post up, and the planes are coming right over you and landing.

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You get incredible footage that there are these hobbyists in other parts of the world that don't have that access. He built this Instagram account and TikTok and YouTube and all this stuff, and it's blowing up. It blew up hardcore because he's got all this data and software and apps to know exactly what planes are coming in. You can see from miles away, and he captured Taylor Swift's plane plane landing at LAX before they got up and went to Las Vegas. He went on TikTok and got like... I don't even know what the number is now, but it was like 1.6 million at some point. It's an LAX plane spotting. It's easy to find on any of those accounts. Luke is what? An 11-year-old boy? He is 13. That is amazing.

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Yeah, and he's obsessed with it.

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He does it like five, six times a week. But he caught the Cardinals playing one time, and they retweeted him. But no response from Taylor Swift yet, but it did do well with the public.

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That is incredible. While you're talking sons, this was Walker's first Super Bowl. Good one. I got to bring him, too, and hang out with him ahead of the game. It's awesome. I mean, we are extremely lucky, but to see his excitement and just for him to be in the building when I'm that excited and then to be with him, it feels amazing. Then we walk in and Cynthia's on the Jumbotron doing next-gen stats, and then Coleen is taking over and was a very big presence of the stadium presentation. It just feels like it's crazy that it's the Super Bowl, and yet it feels small for us. We're very fortunate. It's one of the great things about being with the NFL is those tickets they give us, first of all. It's the best perk of all time that you can share it. Then for it to feel like a home game, that it's our people, and yet it's presenting the Super Bowl. It's incredible. Yeah, I was lucky enough to take two of my friends from way back in the day, from elementary school days.

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What do you think they're doing right now? I don't know. It's a long day.

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Super Bowl is a long day.

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They're back at the hotel, probably, and I'll find out. We're going to be heading back ourselves in just a few minutes. But I've been able to now take all my best buddies from New York, both my parents, my in-laws, brothers, sisters. To share this experience, the Super Bowl, not just the game, but the whole weekend and being in the city, it's not for the meek of heart in terms of financially. It's It's crazy expensive everything around the Super Bowl, and especially here in Vegas. But if you're a football fan, if you ever get the chance to experience the Super Bowl once, it's unlike anything else. It's so fun to share. Although maybe don't do the Vegas one if you're trying not to spend as much money as possible.

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What do we think about Vegas as the Super Bowl host? It'll be back.

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It'll be in the rotation.

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That, I didn't doubt, but what did we think about it?

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They handled it all well.

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It's all intense for our selfish purposes. It's tough to get a coffee or a breakfast for less than $40 or a 30-minute wait. That's a bit of a tricky spot, but to me, it all ran well, and it just makes sense. I thought it was run really well.

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It's at least from a reporting angle. I don't even know what it's like to be a fan of these things. But You go from A to B to C to cover various things. It was relatively easy to do that. I just think in general, staying in Vegas for six days is not a great plan as a human. Not for long-term health or living a long life.

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All right. I thought it was good as well. It was Saturday, the gridlock was out of control. So yeah, there are elements of it that are just a pain in the ass. But I thought the city was really well-equipped. It was the thing that I realized when I was thinking about it last night was the energy of everybody wanting to have the best time possible and being in a really good mood. It's the energy if anyone has ever gone on a guy or a girl trip to Vegas with your friends and you're in that same headspace. You're taking that type of and then bringing the Super Bowl, which is the similar thing, and adding it up. It's like endorphin-wise. It was intense.

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It was as Super Bowl-y, Vegas-y as it gets. It was a little intense. I was walking the lobby after 2 AM last night, and the place looked like it was 5:00 PM.

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This is an absurd, strange-It's an airport, basically. It's a beautiful, horrible, insane place.

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Everything rolled together.

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It's the American experience. All right, let's talk about our locks. Greg, you have finished an incredible season, and I just want to say congratulations. I believe, where did we finish? You locked up the Chiefs. I did lock up the Chiefs. As did I. I think you finished the season 18 and 4? Does that sound right? 19 and 4, I believe. That's by far the best record of all time. It simply has to shatter anything else. Eighteen weeks, and then what? Four rounds of play-offs? Five play-off weeks.

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I got one playoff wrong for sure.

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Start off.Unbelievable. That's going to be tough. You want to talk about you did repeat as champion. Good for you.

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You're going for three-peat as well.You're.

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The Chiefs.Yes. Congratulations to you.

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I closed famously incredibly strong after a slow start, and I think people will remember that. I think I finished after being two games under more than halfway through the season to end up where I did. Really, a lot of people are talking about it, one of the great comebacks ever to finish in second place, I believe. Mark, you made a different type of history.Yes, I did.Do you want to get into it? Yeah. I was informed at one point that this was a month and a half ago, I had notched nine wins, and it was like, just to let you know, I mean, of course, you're probably going to continue to win a couple more games here.

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That nine would be the lowest win total.Locks in a season.Yeah. If you think about it, we've been doing locks for, what, 10 years or something, and there's always been... There were four or three people involved, so that's many, many, many participants, if you think about it. I never won again. I finished with nine wins.I don't even know how many losses.Oh for the playoff.Oh for the playoff.That's hard to do.I think from that angleIt's crazy, too, because I think, did you have the Lions? They had that big lead, and then you had the 49ers. They had big leads, so it just keeps...

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Yeah, I'm almost, I would say from another angle, another point of view, it's impressive also. It's impressive.Go.

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Ahead.it's more remember. People are talking about this, too, Dan. Yes, people are talking. I will say that there was that quiet storm intensity in the first half of the game.

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I could really feel you, Mark, needing the 49ers to win and Brock Purdy to fulfill his destiny is an all-time story. But you've been a pro and a trooper, and you haven't taken that into the podcast. We have Jay on our production team who his entire family is from the Bay Area, and he had to pretty much be on his feet working, turning away from the game during a lot of it.

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He's a hardcore Niners fan. This is his whole family. They melt down in a sad fashion, and he just goes right about That's the pro over there. Great. Shout out to Jay and everyone behind the scenes led, of course, by Eric and Matt Schneider and the whole team that's made this thing go this weekend and this week in Vegas.

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Mark, you're a class act. That's all I can say. Finally, I agree. Let's hit what were our sandwich props. A lot of onion hangers. I could tell you mine. I said, Kelsey goes over 200 yards, wins MVP, I believe. When he was one for one at halftime, I I was thinking to myself as I was walking to go to the bathroom at halftime. I was like, it's almost harder in terms of what are the odds? Are the odds better that he goes 200 yards or that he could actually finish a game with one yard? But anyway, he ends up having a nice second half, but he doesn't approach 200 yards. So I am out multiple sanguages there. Well, it's all even out. I have a feeling. I was not close with my Pacheco. We didn't mention him.

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He ended up with 92 yards from scrimage in 24 He's got 24 touches, including six catches, two fumbles. A couple of times were live. You could really tell he took the wrong angle, didn't have good instincts, almost seemed a little tight. Didn't you also, a couple of weeks ago, inform America and points beyond that that was the most solid Vegas option out there?

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What, Pacheco? Yeah, just in general. Yeah, so that did not work out well. Only one fumbal. I don't know why-Tenet bringing out the rainmaker so the brand doesn't take a hit.

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Smart. It keeps winning. But still, Pacheco also cost you, saying it's in yours, Well, another absurd defeat.

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I said that some event would occur because it had been too quiet in Vegas, that something would happen, NFL-related, that would become a story that we track for the next three or four months and know right away, this is going to saddle us for I didn't take you up on it because I felt it in the air, too. Something would happen this weekend. Man, if Andy, God forbid, he trips on his feet after Travis bumps him and he breaks his hip. That would have been huge. That's it. Yep. That would have been massive.

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Or if Taylor Swift was jumping up and celebrating an overtime and Ice Spice falls out of the luxury suite.We're.

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Cooking.that would have been it. We got to win. That would have been it. But we didn't get the win. And Ice Spice, though, Greg, is safe. Greg likes rap.

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Any other final thoughts on the game and where we are?

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It is incredible and it's annoying and maybe repetitive as this Chief's dynasty coming on the heels of the Patriots relentlessly getting to the stage. It literally is like one ended and the other just started. It's a little bit like, it wouldn't be the worst thing to have a few years where things get mixed up.

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Then if the Chiefs really do have the goods the way the Patriots did, then they can maybe come back in in a few years after the League gets, let's mix it up a little bit.

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But at the same time, I remember I was young, but it was when I was first becoming a football fan. It was the Niners, and I know the Patriots, they went for a three-peat as well. But the Niners, I remember when they won back to in the late '80s, and they had a chance against the Giants, the NFC title game at the Stick, and they lost, I believe, a two-point game on a Matt Barfield goal late. That ended their 3P in hopes. It is almost impossible, and I think they won the next year after that. It It's almost impossible to... They didn't actually. Yeah, Washington. It's almost impossible to win three in a row.

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We were talking Greg Off Mike, which I don't know why we would ever do that.

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We should always talk on Mike. It can't to happen. They can only go down from here at a certain point, and yet there's a path to this team getting better if they make a couple of moves. Sure, but the weight of it, and we'll have all offseason to talk about it.

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I think the weight of trying to get that third, there's a reason why no one's ever done it. Trying to get a fourth in... How many years would it be? Four and five. Four and five. Four and six? Four and six. Whatever it is, that's something the Patriots were... I think the weight of it is really... You could see it with this team. This team had a weight to it, trying to defend it all year. That was difficult. So it's going to be hard, but they're different than any other team. Since 2019, and this is my final thing I'll leave with, is that in the playoffs, teams trailing by 10, other than the Chiefs, are 6 and 48 trailing by 10 in a playoff game, and the Chiefs are 5 and 1 in those games. That's special. They can do it in any way, but they can do it in a very in a particular way that you get up on them and it's just never safe, and they're so complete. This was a different type of team. To me, that's what dynasties, what greatness are made of, is that you realize, man, these football teams, they change so much from year to year.

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They really change over a three-year span. You have to win in totally different ways. But the thing that doesn't change is Mahomes and Reid. As long as that's happening, they can find some other formula to get back here. Yeah, and I think actually this win lifts a lot of weight. I know that it would be there's going to be a grind to go try to win a third, but it's not that they're playing with house money because I think winning matters to them.

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Winning Super Bowl is going to be just an intensive journey. Andy Reid, I remember before the season, we talked on the show about Andy Reid saying everything is reset. They had that rough and tumble training camp where they were getting into fights with each other. It was like, We are resetting the board. I think that the coach, quarterback combination, and really the players on that team as well, do as good a job of that as any team in sports. They've got $24 million in Caprim. They sit right in the middle of the league. I know there's going to be some challenges on that front, but in general, they could go find weapons around Mahomes. You actually went and did this with a low octane offense. What happens if you go add a true starting X wide receiver that brings back some of the playmaking ability around them?

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But start with Chris Jones on the other side of the ball because take him out of the picture. Spags is not going to have the same success. There's challenges ahead, but we should know not to doubt the Chiefs who are back to back champions, and they are the bad guys now. When they ran out of the tunnel here, it sounded like the old Patriots glory days, the way the fans would fill up and get on braided at these Super Bowl. But they loved it. In fact, they were underdogs in each of their last three playoff games, won them all. Patrick Mahomes was asked about being an underdog, and he said on the field, Just know that the Kansas City Chiefs are never underdogs. Know that. Learned it? Go against the Chiefs at your own peril. Again, thank you to everyone around this podcast, which just completed its 11th season, which is unbelievable. It's hard to believe. We've been doing this since 2013. This was our 11th Super Bowl on site, and that's an amazing thing, and we obviously can't do it alone. So again, thank you to Eric, who had an amazing rookie year and a great week.

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Jay and all the team at Radio Row that helped us out. Matt Schneider was pulling a lot of the levers. Thomas Warren, the whole podcast team, and everyone back in Inglewood who helped make this happen. We don't do it alone. So thank you to everybody, and thank you to the listeners. I love you. Where would we be without you guys hanging around? No way. Thanks for giving us a great life. Thanks to everyone who come and said hi this week.

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I felt like we were getting bigger pop than ever. Let's go. That lifts the energy.

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Absolutely. All right. We're taking a week off.

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We'll be back in a bit. And until then, we know what you got to do. He the call.