Live from Hollywood park, it's the 16th annual Mark Sessler mark draft. Your must have final compendium to the 2024 NFL draft. I'm Jason Zumwalt. You may know me as the voice of Reynolds, 2007 to 2009. And now here's your host, the old Sousa himself, Dan Hantus. Hey.

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Hello and welcome to, yes, the 16th annual mock Zessler mark draft. And what an exciting time it is, because 24 hours from now, all the attention, it all heads out to Detroit. All heads out to Marshall Mathers universe, eight mile touch. But for all intents and purposes, the center of the draft world right now is the Chris Wesseling podcast studio for Mister Cesler's mock draft. I cannot do this alone. I will not do this alone. So I have a co host. I'm going to be frank with you. It's mostly for eye candy purposes. It's Greg Rosenthal.

That is right. I have been working out like crazy. Personal trainer, lack of knowledge. Knowledge, but huge guns, massive pipes.

But that's not all. That's not all. Also joining us, and this is important, a man who is quality control of this mock draft. He's a man. He's a professional. He is Lance Zerlin.

Lance, I noticed I didn't get any applause, so that's cool.

There you are. There we are.

A smattering. I brought along some melatonin.

Okay.

Melatonin. Just in case I get too excited about Mark's grass, I need to take the edge off a little bit.

Sounds like a man who doesn't like someone else coming on his corner. The draft expert corner.

Let me just put it this way. I'm no Marlo Stanfield, but I will say this. I remember, you know, when former athletes who are in the space, or even guys who play now, and they get all upset, who are these guys? Mock drafting? Where did they ever play? What do they know? Who the hell's Mel Kuiper anyway? You know, that whole thing? And I always thought, well, that's dumb. But now that mark's trying to crank out a mock graph, who the hell is Mark to do these mod drafts? It's just kind of the same kind of thing. You know, when people encroach on your space, you don't love it.

It's like when someone makes a copy of a VHS and then a copy of a VHS and then a copy of a VHS. The degradation at a certain level is. It's almost like, can we watch it anymore? Can we listen? And without further ado. And what a way to set the table. It is the man of the hour hopefully comes in under an hour. Mark Sesler.

Well, thank you. This is starting exactly as I thought it would in terms of tone, disregard for the immense amount of work that I put into this.

We've also put in work behind the scenes. Everyone should check us out on YouTube and you can see the visual of five different Mark Zestlers drafting at the same time.

Beautiful, Mark. I like that. That's how you come into this, because in past years you have famously stated, I believe last year, if you listen to last year's program, you said you put in 1 hour and I believe twelve minutes of research, and yet all we've heard for the past few weeks is you are turned into a machine. You're basically coming for Lance in a way, because you have been watching tape, you've been grinding. So in a lot of ways you want to be legitimized within the industry. And I could tell. So this means a lot. This is such an important mark draft for you.

Yeah, I think an hour and twelve minutes is rich for what I did last year because I think I got up and made coffee and at one point took a brief nap. But like this time around, I have tried to, you know, go through these picks pick by pick and look for things that would excite me as well as what seems logical.

Let's do it. All right.

So this is very important. You need to hit. Let's check out last year's results.

Oh, really?

Mark Zessler, 2023. You got Bryce Young at one. You got Bijon to the Falcons. You got CJ Stroud, Wright, but he had him at twelve. So Will Anderson, and you got Anderson and Stroud, but you had him the wrong spots.

Got Richardson. Right team was a correct pick, although.

Obviously Levis was second round. But name and team was a correct.

We're going to give him full credit for saying a guy's going third overall. That didn't even get taken on.

Take it up with past Greg.

You agreed last.

Yeah, Greg, this was something you ordered in the first.

Yeah.

Pen and Hooker had no, had one leg left, right.

That passed. Greg is one of my least favorite people. Okay. But, yeah, you got to beat five or, no, you have to.

We're going to rewrite that. You have to have it within the first round. We, you know, will Levis going in the 6th round to the titans isn't the same as will Levis going fourth over.

No, I would agree with that. I think it got so bleak that we amended the rules during our live show.

Okay. All right.

So that's last year, but this is this year and this is a different mark. And Lance, you're going to see that. And what, what starts this episode as we get to the first pick right now, what started as a, an exercise almost mocking the industry. Now he's marking the industry as a ceciler joint. Get to it. The first overall pick.

Okay.

Very little drama. Obviously we're at the first overall pick. The Chicago bears do it. We've expected them to do for eons at this point. Caleb Williams quarterback, USC okay, now is.

There anyone out there, Lance, by the way, that is saying that that's not going to happen? No, that's, nobody's out there.

It's done.

It's done.

The books, Mark is one for one.

There's an NFL scout or two out there that it's like, well, we would take Jaden Williams supposedly. I don't know if it, believe it, one or two.

I don't think we need to hold there any longer. Let's move to the second overall pick. The Washington commanders.

I think the events of the last couple of weeks make this slightly mysterious. If you're into like chatter and talking points and offenses and who's an alpha and who's not an alpha, but the Washington commanders at number two stick with what we've heard. They go with Jaden Daniels, quarterback, LSU.

Now we got the thumbs up from Lance. So you're not reading into Lance. Jayden didn't like the idea that he's at top golf with like twelve other guys.

No, I think that Jaden Daniels, while he may not like to hang out with a bunch of other quarterbacks, I don't care, as long as he's the only quarterback that's going to start for Washington, they're going to take.

All right, moving on to number three.

All right, number three. And, you know, I try to please the people that matter to me inside this industry on the show. And that seems like a mistake, right.

Lance, pleasing the people who matter to you.

Speaker three. I mean, that's what the insiders do well, namely.

Namely Greg. For the sake of just namely Greg. But Greg has been hot on the tail of New England patriots, their third overall pick. Drake may quarterback North Carolina. It's also just logical. I think this is where, where they're going to. You're hearing a lot of chatter that the patriots really dig. Drake May, too.

Mark Saysler proverbial people pleaser.

This feels like the first, you know, where the draft really starts unless they, Washington shocks us, doesn't take Daniel's. Lance, as we get close, like, where are you? Where are you feeling is going to happen?

I'm going to go right player, wrong team. I think May goes three, but I'm going to put them either with the Giants or the Vikings in this spot. I'm not going to give you the entire thing. You're going to have to read my mock to find out what I'm actually doing.

What a tease in the business. This would drive me crazy. If they just assume they can get some other quarterback some other time. That's it. I'm out forever.

The fourth pick. Now this is a hotly debated pick about who's going to make it. Right now it's the Cardinals. Does it stay that way, Mark?

It does not. And you're going to have your fans that say, wait a minute, you don't take Marvin Harrison. What are you doing here? But the Cardinals make the trade that a lot of people have presupposed could happen with the Vikings. They get eleven and 23 and the Vikings move up and Kevin O'Connell gets his guy. JJ McCarthy, quarterback, Michigan.

Lance, I'm okay with it. Does that work for you?

Yeah, I'm fine with it. I'm fine with it. I think Arizona now has three first round picks.

They do.

So, you know, obviously they have to, they got to figure out what they're going to do with three first round picks. I think they'd have to trade up, but for now I'm okay.

He's going to like some of what happens later on.

This would break my heart. This would mean that Sam Darnold's chances of actually starting for the Vikings go way down. So I'm really hoping this does not occur, but I'm fully prepared for it.

As we get closer to draft, I do think it's worth wondering, are we sure that there are multiple teams that want JG McCarthy this much? Now if the Patriots don't take may or maybe they make the trade with the Vikings and the Vikings go up and they take may at three. Like either way. Do the Vikings even feel like they need to go up that high to get JJ McCarthy? I think is a fair question. Is there a chance he would even fall the way down to eleven? I feel like that's higher than people are trying to.

Well, you got the Giants hanging out there, so you can't get too.

All right, number five, you have the Los Angeles superchargers on the clock. Do they stay there?

We have a trade.

Another one?

Yeah.

Oh, my goodness.

And this is not me wish casting. I can't think of a more all in team in the NFL that basically has like a one year contract with the football gods just to make it happen. Right now that is the New York jets.

Oh, my goodness.

And we know they like to wheel and deal and make moves, and they move up to number five and they take Marvin Harrison junior. They don't care. They're going to go for it.

Now, that would be, as a Jet fan, I would be over the moon. Now, what are we giving up? I would like to know. But you know what I think to Joe Douglas's credit, as much as we are talking about, and I agree that they are all in on this year because everything is on the line for the organization and how could it go wrong? But to Joe Douglas credit, we have not seen him make a move where it's like he's selling the farm because he doesn't care, because he's not there yet. This would start to edge into that territory. Unless, Lance, it doesn't matter what they're giving up because Harrison is that good? Is he that good? Is this a superstar waiting to just enter the league?

I think he's a really good player. The chance to be a Pro bowl player. And you know what I like about Mark here is that he talks about the all in nature of this pick. They don't even have a second rounder this year. So basically, you're trading up and you're going to give up a big pick next year as well. So you are basically, if you're. Joe Douglas said, if you're going to fire me, I'm taking all my picks with me.

There you go.

Or you're not really specifying at all what you're doing. And as a fellow mock drafter, Lance, what do you think of that? Just in terms of the concise analysis, too, that mark is bringing to the.

Greg, what is wrong with you?

I mean, I love going forward with Harrison. I'm not sure how you're going to make that work. I just. For me, this just smacks of. I like the phrase he used, wish casting, because I think that is what this is. Despite his protestation.

That's what I was looking for. Yeah.

Yeah. So I'm gonna say, no. No, I'm sorry, dog. That's a no for me.

Yeah. And in general, Lance, to be taken seriously in this world, wish casting is probably not something you want to do in general. Right, right.

You can't just go through life just hoping and wishing, you know, there's an old saying in the movie. Have you ever seen the movie? Have you ever seen the movie? I think it's this boy's life. Have you ever seen this boy's life with Robert De Niro and DiCaprio. Leo Dicaprio. It's one of the most, I think, the most underrated movies ever. And there's a phrase in there, crap in one hand and hope in the other, and see which one gets full first. Or maybe it was a different movie, but it's my favorite quote ever to use because it's true.

I'm going to ask you a question. Who's got an entire episode based around their mock draft? It's about to blow up on, you know, iTunes or if you got your podcast and YouTube as well.

Daniel Jeremiah.

Okay, well, who else but okay, I.

Caught that little, little subtle lowering of expectations there by Lance for Marvin Harrison Junior.

Yeah, I know.

Pro bowl, he's like, solid. Got a chance to be a Pro bowl player. It's like, okay, we see you. We see hell.

Not an all time.

I'm not saying all time.

Great.

You're not into playing with Aaron Rodgers.

For one year like Tyrod Taylor is a Pro bowl player, right?

I mean, that's what I'm saying.

Yeah. You know. Anyway, let's move on. We keep rolling. So we got two trades in the top five. Are any of the big cubies left? The big no or no? So now the New York Giants, who I think were hoping one of those guys might be there.

I think they were hoping someone would be there. I think they probably made it, picked up the phone and were, you know, out, priced out, leveraged by the Vikings. You know, the Giants have a lot to choose here, though, and I think we need to go to one of the greatest giant podcasts out there, you know, we don't like to promote other shows, but this is different. It's Christopher Walken's walking with giants. Great show.

Look, great show.

So many people want to know who the giants are gonna choose. I'll tell you now, Malik, neighbors, LSU wide receiver, six foot nothin, 200 pounds. It's gonna be good, I think.

Wow, Mister Walken, thank you. And check out Walken with giants anywhere you get your podcasts. Lance, were you aware of that podcast, that actor, iconic actor Christopher Walken getting up there in years, but still covering the Giants and watching the Giants very closely. He likes the idea of Malik neighbors from LSU going number six and no.

Idea Christopher was a Giants fan, but.

I know now, wow. Not only is Lance going toe to toe with Mark Cesler, also with the voice of ATN, Jason Zumwalt.

Yeah, it's a, it's an incredible showing by Lance so far.

I think this could be a savvy move as we're getting closer. For what it's worth. Lot of, lot of buzz out there from giants reporters, giants, everything that, like, actually, if may is gone there, they might not be as into taking a quarterback as people think. And that would make, that would make them more likely. You think that's accurate? Okay.

I think that's actually accurate. And here's the other thing. I think that if you draft Malik neighbors, this is what I like to call this, the third act for Daniel Jones. We had the first act, the second act, or actually this would probably be.

Had a sneaky good rookie area.

Yeah, the fourth act. I think we'd be on the fourth act in what is what would be known as the comeback. Comeback. Inside of the second contract, every classic.

Play is built off a three act structure. So four acts feels excessive for Daniel.

Yeah.

His entire career resets every year with a whole different set of expectations. It seems weird. All right, number seven. Now, this one is on my radar, Mark, just because everyone seems certain of the pick and when that happens, sometimes the mock industry and the rest of us end up looking foolish. But what do you think happened?

I'm with you. It bothered me to even type this with this. I think this is Bill Callahan telling, saying, I'm daddy. I choose who goes here. I'm running your offensive line. The Titans at number seven.

You think the offensive line coach is running the draft room?

It's the father of the head coach.

So, yeah, I do.

I think he's probably got some say here, but it's a need.

Daddy issues there. Sure.

Joe Alto is six foot, 7322 pounds. He's the pick at number seven for the Titans. It just makes sense if they do something else. I think it'd be a relatively massive surprise to anyone out there.

Yeah. Lance is the, is this being overly simplified? That this is definitely.

No. If Joel is still there, he will be the pick.

Yeah. Daniel Jeremiah, your, your frenemy on the move. This sticks podcast. Lance said on Wednesday that he just keeps hearing teams are trading up for tackles, that he thinks there's going to be a lot of trade up for now, maybe it's all is certainly tackle one or is expected to be and there's, there's three or four that could go in the top 15.

All right, the next pick. Go ahead.

No, I think, I mean, I just think that's it. I think teams have, we've all put Joel to seven. It's the one that makes the most sense. That's one of the biggest dangers you can have in the draft is have everyone know who you potentially are going to take because then you become an easy trade ahead of target.

Or maybe they could trade with the Chargers. Seven to five take out there, perhaps.

Okay, we're going to get through the top ten. We're going to take a break and say goodbye to Lance because Lance has serious person stuff. He does.

Yeah, this is a farce.

He seems to be hinting at that. Number eight. So this is where just, again, everyone just assuming, okay, here are the Falcons. No defensive players off the board. So this is where the first guy goes. Do you think that right, like Dallas.

Turner just staring at his phone thinking it's going to ring? Well, it's not going to ring because we have a trade. And this is where I start to do things that I want to do. And the Kansas City Chiefs, who sit in turmoil at the wide receiver position, talk about another team behind the jets that are equal with the jets or more and more in terms of proving it or all in right now. It might be your last year with Travis Kelsey. You want to go get that offense you want to deal with, you've been doing before. They trade up to number eight with the Atlanta Falcons and they get Roma Dunze, wide receiver Washington. And you talk about an offense that looks transformed with this pick ready to.

Go right away, rookie Lance is covering his face. He's pressing his samples. Speak to us about what you're feeling, Lance. Right now.

I mean, part of me wants to just hang up on this thing right now. So I like that. Mark says, you know what I like to do when I do mock drafts is I try to think like the teams. And I said, well, now, what would this GM do now? What is their history? What do they, and that's why my mocs take five to 7 hours. Mark says, this is what I want to do. I'm going to take over. So Mark thinks, what would mark do if he were with the Chiefs? Trade up. Like, my job's not on the line. I'm going to give away three first rounders, apparently, because I'm going to go from 32 to eight. I don't even know if they make the draft chart. I don't even know if the draft chart, even if they even have that as a possibility.

Classes in session.

Mark 598 is 1400. We've got to match up 900 more points. That's going to be more than a first rounder next year. You're basically giving up a second this year, a first next year.

We've seen it. We've seen it. We've seen it a couple times. Sam and Julio Jones, in fairness, I.

Think what Lance is also getting at, what the, the way he's, the draft trade, the point system, right. I think he's indirectly saying, mark, did you even do any of this in your head before throwing out something that it seems irresponsible almost in a way.

Mark, I view trades and future assets and anything attached to the salary cap at this point as just sort of a mythical blockade. And I think this is possible. So again, this is my world.

It is spicy, though, that the Chiefs and the bills, the two defining teams the last five years, both have this vibe that maybe one of them trades up for a wide receiver, makes this draft more fun.

And I would say being unconventional doesn't mean you're wrong, Mark.

So the quote there, I support this one.

I'm also not wrong yet. It hasn't happened.

This is where we start to do what I want to do. I like that. That's like, you're not, you're an iconoclast when it comes to this industry. All right.

Like that part in the movie where you break bad, essentially Michael Douglas just starts losing his mind on poor citizens of Los Angeles.

I think it's fair to say you're the bad boy of the mock industrial complex. Number nine, the Chicago Bears with their second pick at the top.

I think people have thought the bears would go get their wide receiver here, but I think what they do to, you know, settle down iberflews, who's like, will anyone ever give me assets and stop trading Roquan Smith and everyone else with any talent off my defense. They take the player that people thought the Falcons would, Dallas Turner, edge out of Alabama. You give them a piece on defense to improve that pass rush to your top edge.

Lance, I'm just curious.

No, I've got Jared verse, but it's very close.

I'm.

I think Dallas Turner goes before verse, so I'm fine with this. Finally, a respite from insanity.

What's then move to number ten, because I'm curious if you're going to be okay with this one. So, of course, in Mark's world, the jets and Chargers traded. So now it's the Chargers sitting at number ten. And what do they do with the pick?

Well, they need a, they need a wide receiver. We know that but it's Jim Harbaugh. So it's like, who does Jim Harbaugh want to take? That really fills out another aspect of this offense. This person can catch the ball, too. It's Brock Bowers, tight end.

Georgia, what do you think now? Bowers has been widely mocked to the jets staying home at ten, but in this case he goes ten, but to a different team. Lance, is that logical to you?

Well, this is the genius of a Mark Cesler is that he takes a look and he even said, we need a pass catcher. You don't say you need a wide receiver anymore. You need a pass catcher. You need a weapon. And so Mark has correctly identified that Bowers is a weapon. Don't put the label on wide receiver or tight end. We know the Chargers need a weapon. We know they need an offensive lineman. In this case, they got a weapon. But he's one of one. He's the only tight end will go on the first and maybe the second round, too. So in this particular case, I think the value is pretty good for a guy who I consider to be a weapon at tight end.

I love that. And you needed that.

It was a good one, Mark.

That's a good way to, you know, end our hardcore praise like that. That felt good.

Why I haven't totally mentally ruled out Brock Bowers at, at nine. I'm actually looking down at another competing mock draft. This is a new entrant into the mix, the Walker Rosenthal 2024 mock draft. That is my nine year old son with zero help. Put this together weeks ago and hours and we will compare who gets more.

Right?

I'll send it out on. But he had Bowers going to the bears, which I thought was a creative little wrinkle. I know Cole Comet is there, but they need weapons. They could add a second to.

Real quick before I leave, real quick, can you just give me, because I may want to. This is pretty fun. Can you give me eleven real quick? Can I get just a little teaser on eleven?

Steal your. Wow, it's funny. Why Lance? Lance is saying that because I was going to suggest, can we just hang for one more pick? Because I want Lance's thoughts on the Las Vegas Raiders being on the clock.

They maybe will go later.

Well, yeah. So there, there's a trade. That's how they get on the clock. The Cardinals had this pick from the Vikings. The Cardinals are willing to move down to 13 and allow the Raiders to come up to eleven, where they take Michael Pennix junior. They need a quarterback out of Washington. They have been linked together. There's their supposed interest. Who knows if that's all lies or not.

You have, it appears to me you have injured Lance airline with that choice. In fact, he's gone. He's, oh my God, Lance is gone. He just disconnected the chat.

I don't blame, I didn't, you know, I didn't like ship Ryan Lee junior to any of these teams. These are good players for the most part.

But just to clarify, Lance indeed cut off his communication after that.

He, he had a look of disgust.

Yeah, that was, the box was gone. I don't know if Mark that is, that's a wipe him out and he.

Can I explain why? I like before we just like float down this avenue of how could this happen? Like the Broncos have just hung up. The Broncos have the next pick.

They do.

So the Raiders are hopscotching their biggest route, one of their biggest rivals to take the, like the next quarterback you'd logically take. And they've gotten, these are two teams with nothing at quarterback. So do you sit there and watch the Broncos go take Michael Pennix and then you're sitting there with nothing at quarterback.

He seems to be the most raidersy quarterback possible. Big arm throw deep like they love that. I think that the issue would be a lot of people feel like he is being really pushed up to even being talked about as a first round talent because of the injuries, because of the time, but also just because he's not incredibly accurate. Where to me it feels like if they are trading up from 13, that feels a little, I mean, that's a little rich.

It's two spots. There's a logical reason you're hopscotching the team that seems desperate to take whoever sitting there at quarterback.

I feel like he is more likely to get taken in round two than he is in the top 15. But that's just my, well, Chad writer.

Thought the same thing. But I mean, how often are quarterbacks overvalued in this process? So I don't know. Again, is it, is it interesting? Are Raiders fans sitting like that captured my interest.

Speaker two, Walker's got him going to the Vikings at 22. They actually stick and pick and they have pennies.

Are we going to do this for every.

No, I think that pennix especially, this.

Is the minute Lance goes, we've got, I got a nine year old on my back.

Yeah, well, like you to Walker is like lands to you. You suddenly don't like.

I don't know, but that's the, I'm not sure I'll it's the cycle of life, probably won't beat Walker.

So I think, I think in fairness, Greg, as the co host here, first of all, we should talk beforehand. This is a big stage for Mark and we've talked, we talked about on our most recent show, the goal here is to legitimize Mark.

Oh, yeah.

And having a nine year old serve as his foil on top of Lance, which I thought was more constructive. And this idea of like how do we, it didn't go exactly how I wanted because I wanted Lance to be more of a helping hand to you. But he seemed, I mean, he hung up on us, for Christ's sake.

He was put off.

So now to throw in a nine year old potentially feasting on you is not what we're looking for. We're trying to make because like Mark said, a big hit, mock draft for Mark, draft for mock Cessler is a big hit for around the NFL.

So I will say one thing, though.

But it's kind of like picking up extra picks. A big Walker Rosenthal mock draft would be good for around the NFL either. The whole story, nine year old, either way. Now we're just taking more bites at the apple. One out of two is probably going to do well.

I feel like a hit for Mark in this mock is a hit for the group, a hit for Walker is a hit for Rosenthal. It's like what is?

And I don't, I respect children and I respect their opinions and all that stuff, but like, you know, well, I will, I'd be happy to see how he does.

I mean, there's certainly some, it's written in pencil.

I mean, the genie's out of the bottle. So now Walker's involved, but I'll send it out.

But there are some issues, including he doesn't appear to have all 32 teams. There's only 31. That's a bit of, nope.

You never know.

That works out to your favor.

That does.

Yeah. All right, let's take a break. And when we come back, we hit pick number twelve. The Denver Broncos are on the clock. Or are they?

Hmm.

All right, we are back. And in case you missed it, we just went through the first eleven picks of the mock Zessler mark draft. Thank you again to Lance Zierline, who you could find him everywhere, NFL Network, NFL.com. And he has his final mock draft going up live on NFL.com today, Wednesday. So make sure you check that out. And thank you to Lance for joining us. Even if it was a little bit.

More hostile than, yeah, like we were looking for Jacoby Brissette kind of mentoring Sam Howell and we got Joe Flacco icing out Lamar Jackson. But it was fun.

I'm still sitting here unaffected by it all.

That's good. And you need to be.

Yeah, I feel completely, I feel nothing.

Because I think you need to have iron guts to succeed in this very, I mean, look, look at it. How many mock drafts are on NFL.com?

At least four.

Well, an absurd amount actually, if you.

Think more than that. Right?

It's an absurd amount of joke.

Oh, I think there's like maybe six, seven.

Oh no, I think there's digits. I think there's 47.

Multiple.

I'm not kidding. Even just different people. Yeah, there's probably over ten, but. And then they have version five through six or.

Well, that's different. I mean, just the number of individuals.

I think we're a wide net over two.

And that's the ground that we're looking to edge into here at NFL. We are part of NFL media. Correct.

We're on according to reports.

Okay, so let's move on. Now, the next up, next pick is who's on the board?

Well, so the Broncos were sitting here at twelve, but now it's like they can't get their quarterback. And they're like, you know what, we have a lot to rebuild from after this post Russell Wilson Apocalypse. So they're open to a move.

And isn't it funny that the Broncos go from one Wilson that nobody wants to go near, radioactive and they trade for another Wilson and Zach that nobody wants to go near and is radioactive? What is up with that name? Stay away from the Wilson Denver Broncos.

I don't like that at all. But they're going to be staying away from this pick. Let's take a look.

Oh, wow, another trade. Very active.

Oh, no, there's been a trade. The Arizona Cardinals, via the Denver Broncos, have traded for alumi Yiwa. Fashion offensive tackle, Penn State junior. Six, 6317 pounds.

Oh my goodness, Jason, my wifeless is a cardio fanatic.

So yes, there was a lot of masculine energy right there.

Seemed to be losing his mind mine there. So there you go. They go and get an offensive tackle.

And would be disappointed if they just take another tackle. They keep taking tack.

Speaker three. That's true. But you talked about teams, you know, moving up to do it and this.

Seems a little beyond the Cardinals pay grade in terms of football abilities behind the scenes. So they're trading out of the fourth. Well, they did this last year and then they're trading. They're trading up.

They have three first round picks.

This is what, this is what I predicted they're going to do. They're going to overthink this whole thing and end up, even though Lance didn't seem so hot about Marvin Harrison, they're going to. Instead of getting a superstar wide receiver for Kyler Murray and finally seeing once and for all if that guy is the truth forever and ever, we're going to end up with an offensive lineman, not even the projected number one.

I understand your ire, but let's let the process play out.

So, lack of trust, I think also.

Like Monty Ossenfort is a very different world than what we were frowning on about the Cardinals for a long time. And I think actually last draft he had one of the savviest drafts and I think he shows right here that he can move up and down the board and do what he needs to do because they got the next pick, too.

All right, number 13, the Cardinals on the board.

And here is what they do at number 13. They stay right home.

Another trade the Arizona Cardinals, via the Las Vegas Raiders, have traded for Layatu Lotu. Edge, UCLA senior, six 5265 pounds.

I think we're losing, Jay. Oh, no, I think we are.

He seems to lose.

He likes that better than the tackle.

You got a tackle, you got an edge. Those are two of the more expensive positions to try to stock, so you got them both on rookie contracts.

Very nice. Are you aware that you win titles in the trenches?

I think that could be. There's an argument for that.

Thank you.

Good value there, too.

Love lots of that is. I came up with that. You win in the trenches.

I'm going to let Greg announce this one because this is his pet, his team, his team.

The number 14 pick in the first round.

I think Saints fans will be happy that they didn't have to trade up to take their tackle. Talis Fuiaga from Oregon State, some people think might move inside to guard, but Saints need help everywhere.

Little chalky, though, because everyone thinks they're going to take a tackle, but I think they are, and they seem to do it all, every, every year.

Now, as a football fan, I'm going to say, here's the thing about the first round picks. When you go get the tackle, it's so important, obviously, to have stability at those positions, especially left tackle. But you never come out of the first round like pumping your fist. It's like not only is it not a glory position when you have a first round pick and you take a tackle, they are I mean, all positions are, but they're so boom and bust, these big men. And maybe he's a, maybe he's a player, maybe he's had a league in three years. Hopefully you're not going to like this.

Draft then, Dan, because there could be like seven in the first round.

I probably won't.

And a lot of people think like a guy like Fuaga, he might have been tackle one in last year's class, that there's four or five of these guys that would have.

No, you know, I invented the, the saying championships are one in the trenches, so don't, don't get it mixed up. Yes, I understand the importance of.

You believe in it, right?

Sure. I mean, but the excitement level when your team takes a tackle is, it's usually a little muted. That's all I'm saying.

Yes. They, they also traded up just two years ago in the first round for Trevor Penning, an individual who they would refuse to play no matter how many tackles got injured last year. So they actually had given up a first round pick that turned into a top ten pick. That was Jalen Carter and us. Their second round pick this year. They're still paying for that trade, and they need to fill the spot. So that was a disastrous trade for the saints.

Tricky, tricky.

Well done, Nikki Loomis.

Tricky, tricky, tricky. All right, up next. Oh, my goodness. More business being done.

Absolutely. I think this is going to be wild, and that's what I'm trying to plug into here. The Colts sit at 15, but something happens. Let's go to the tape.

Sup, losers? We have a trade.

The Los Angeles Rams have acquired the.

15Th overall pick from the Colts, who move to 19 and get some other. With the 15th pick in the 2024 NFL draft, the Los Angeles Rams select Texas linebacker Byron Murphy the second. And I can confirm that this is a thousand percent accurate because Ceciler is never wrong. Miss you guys.

It came so easily off the tongue, calling us losers.

Natural, organic. And that's why I feel bad for, you know, doing something I would do if, if Ricky was here, right there. Just pointing out, maybe a thousand percent was a little high in terms of the accuracy because Byron Murphy is a defensive tackle, not a linebacker, more of an interior passer. He is.

And I mean, she's not here to defend herself. And yet, Greg, you take it.

I'm just saying for the help.

I thought she did a lot of good there.

I thought I enjoyed it. I liked being the loser by Erica Tan.

I loved it.

And yet you come off the top.

I just, as you do with her, you have information.

909 tick, which is annoying multiple people. But Byron Murphy, in a post Aaron Donald world like this is one guy watching that he would fit. And I could see the Rams not, they got this first round pick. Like we're going to do a little something.

I feel like they're going to do something, whether it it's trade back, trade up. That's what the Rams do.

I like the idea of f them picks continuing in perpetuity for the Rams and never picking the first round ever again. But this would end that streak. It has been since. Jared Goff. Jared Goff. It's like 34, not 34, but he's like 30, 32 years old. The last time that the Rams took a number one in the draft. Okay, here we go. Now we move to number 16. Now. What's going on?

Well, we have a. Another trade.

Jesus, this is nine trades in the last 13 picks.

Are you getting a little. It's gonna over your skis here now with the trades?

No, it comes down a little bit from here, but I think there's gonna be a lot of movement. The Seahawks, you know, I thought, I kind of thought in my own little world that maybe there was a universe where they maybe took Michael Pennix junior here, but that, no, but even in general, they're willing to move. The Falcons, who went down with that Chiefs trade, they want to come back up and do what they were going to do before, and they take one of my favorite players in the draft, Jared verse, edge from Florida State.

I love it.

A total headache. He's going to, he's going to take that Jonathan Abraham situation and throw it up.

Jonathan Abraham. The curse of John Abraham, folks, it's been a decade. If John Abraham's on your team, you will go at least ten years immediately after his departure without having a proven edge rusher. And they're looking to stop that with Jared verse. All right, number 17.

All right, some of these get a little more normalized. So the Jacksonville Jaguars, they're happy to take the first cornerback off the board, and they choose Taryon Arnold from Alabama. Good player.

Yeah, the cornerback slipping a little bit. Mitchell, not been drafted, but feel like it's possible. Feel like it's possible.

Seems possible.

And I do feel like the Jaguars would be thrilled to have either one of those guys fall to them.

And, you know, I do have to say that they are a team that could use a little offensive oomph right now. The way last year ended and losing Calvin Ridley, a guy they wanted speaker two.

I would think Brian Thomas, junior if the board felt like this would be a consideration, at least for absolutely Arnold. Makes sense.

I think Jaguars fans would maybe be a touch miffed if they don't come out of this with a weapon for Lawrence, but sound pick Trent balky is.

Going to do what he needs to do. We know that.

Excuse me.

All right, next up, the Cincinnati Bengals.

At 18, but the Bengals could go a couple different ways here. They seem like a dark horse not to trade, but they. I kind of thought they maybe were a perfect fit for someone like Brock Bowers, but I don't think, I think at this point is not going to them. Maybe the wide receiver, but they go. Troy Fatano, interior offensive line, Washington. Consider by PFF the best overall athlete among the offensive linemen. Very versatile and play a number of different positions. I know they attacked offensive line a lot in free agency a couple years ago, but it didn't completely work out. And I don't know what's more important than making sure you don't lose Joe Burrow to injury number six.

So that's what.

Look, no one's better at stepping up in the pocket than Joe Burrow. So you want to have a nice, firm pocket like that. Like that choice. You want a supple pocket, nice and firm.

Supple and firm.

Yes, yes, yes. All right. That's good. I like that pick. Solid. Makes sense. I feel like they've been working on that line since Burrow second season, and maybe this guy brings the total stability.

They have plenty of needs, so they go in a lot of direct. Yeah, they do. Like guys from, like teams from big schools that just played in a playoff game. Like that is very much often from the SEC. That is their movie.

All right, next.

All right, remember, this is where the Colts are sitting at 19 after the trade with the Rams. They need, they have an absolute. They have an absolute need. They have a very young secondary, and I think they're very happy to have Quenyon Mitchell.

Wow.

Lido cornerback, one of the best zone coverage guys in the league. Fall to them. They don't have a lot of it like veteran presence there. They just need some solid guys. They know that and produce out of the gate. They hope it's true with him.

They are like team athleticism. Team just take measurables and see what happens. They did it with their second round pick. Did you, Brent at cornerback last year? I feel like they need weapons, but they certainly could use a cornerback, too.

This feels like value. They. This is number twelve the number twelve prospect and Daniel Jeremiah's big board. So I think there's, I think if you are a team that is looking at this top of the draft for defensive players, this sets up very well for you this year. So. Cause there's going to be big time guys coming out of this draft. I'm playing defense and everyone's focused elsewhere. So maybe you get some guys that.

Other years, guys like Michael Parsons. Not that anyone knew he was going to be Michael Parsons, but he was a pretty highly touted prospect throughout college and into the draft. And you remember that draft was like all offense and quarterbacks going early, and.

Parsons fallen on the 18 teams at 19 that passed on TJ Watt when it made sense not to do that.

There's a lot to learn from studying these past drafts. All right, now the Steelers are up at 20 and we have a run, we have a certified run on defensive backs.

Yeah.

They didn't pass on TJ Watt when they knew they shouldn't, and they are not going to pass on one of the more interesting players in the draft. This feels like such a Steelers player and it's dropped me nuts already. But Cooper DeGene, cornerback out of Iowa, he can do a little bit of everything. And this is a team that knows that special teams is going to matter more than ever before. They did get Cordero Patterson, but they also know that Cooper Degene is one of the more dangerous return men in the league. And the kickoff rules changed and they. You remember that Mike Tomlin used to go for two pointers more than anyone when that first became an option. And certainly this guy likes to push the envelope a little more than people realize. DeGene is a perfect Steelers type player.

I think it's an interesting fit with a guy. He has been compared to decent amount. Mike Minka, Fitzpatrick, you put those two guys in the same defensive backfield, even if DeGene is at corner or slot.

Corner like that crowd applauding a white cornerback going in the first round could.

Be steel belt crowd.

Yeah, he's breaking, he's breaking boundaries. You know, let, let your athletes stay at cornerback, no matter who they are.

We should have Jason Seahorn on hand to make the pick if it happens. All right, moving up. Oh, no. Just when we thought we were done with trades, we got a trade.

Yep.

How many trades we got and what is the record? La research. We need to dig in on that.

This would be the record, I would believe, by, by quite a stretch. The Dallas Cowboys, like, finally, like now, they've said we're all in on the draft, not just the offseason. We're all in on the right. They've circled around and said that. Now that's true, but they have to do something here and they want to. You know, Greg, you're hearing little whispers and birdies and butterflies tell you that people are trading up for offensive tackles. JC Latham out of Alabama, I think this is where they go. They, you know, you've lost Tyrants. They, they want to keep building that offensive line and I think this is a logical save pick for them.

Six, 6360 pounds. I love that. Like Joe all is such a freak that JC Latham really hasn't gotten much attention for being this big, this massive. Not going to say it's Tyron Smith vibes, but just like physically, I think they'd love to keep Tyler Smith to a guard, which, which they could in this situation.

Did they get the best years of Tyron Smith? Probably. Could he have played another three or four years at a high level? Potentially. But perhaps the smart move is to move on, hit on somebody you really like in the first round and then you have a true bridge and a young tackle to protect Dak or whomever. Yeah.

I wonder if they could trade up like you say, mark, and then you get the right player, right team, but it's just in a different spot. But you do get credit for that.

Ah, okay. Credit.

Yeah, if it's in the first round, if you get the right team player and they trade up for Latham at 15 or something, you get credit.

I think credit is an important word. I think what Mark is looking for in many ways is credit. And that, and that's, there's a little bit right there, extra credit.

I agree that will Levis getting points for that last year was probably just this. This is such a loss that we're just trying to throw this guy some.

Sort of, I got a nine year old coming for you. All right, up next, the 22nd pick and oh, my God.

So the Eagles are sitting here and I think the Cowboys kind of thought, we're not going to get hopscotched by the Eagles for an offensive lineman of any sort. And so that's sort of what motivated them. We see them do that to each other on draft day before, but the Eagles are open for business and we have a trade.

It's unbelievable. The number of trades, the sheer number of trades.

It will be 17 trades in the end.

Okay.

And so what, what triggers trades on on draft night? I think it can be like logic, smart. You fell in love with someone or you're a little bit desperate. And the bills are like, we can't sit around deep, deep farther down in this first round. There's a number of guys that could go for, but they go for Ad Mitchell. Texas wide receiver, great route runner, a red zone menace. They've had red zone issues at times in the past. I think this is a sexy additional weapon for Josh Allen and friends.

The conventional wisdom is Howie Roseman is not picking 22. He's either going to move up, he's either going to move down, but he's not going to move. I don't know what that means. I mean, if the right player was there, I guess. I guess then he would move up. Ad Mitchell is maybe among the most divisive players in this draft. Some people think he could be a true number one, like a top ten type of talent, but some questionable effort, some questionable profile. Kind of reminds me of George Pickens coming out a little bit, but George.

Pickens, oh, you guys chase Claypool. Here's from Jeremiah's top 50. It looks like he gets a little lazy at times on the backside of routes, assuming the ball is going elsewhere. He doesn't have a ton of production after the catch. Overall, though, Mitchell is an ideal x receiver. He can make plays when covered in his real weapon.

You also replace one headache potential potentially with another, and that's, that's smart.

And to be clear, like, I don't think there's any off field, like, major concerns. It was just like a lot of people saying, like, he kind of goes half speed on half these routes and he talked about that, too.

And that's nice that you brought that up, Greg. That's important. You want to be fair to these young men.

I always worry when Greg Rosethol, I always worry when you're on a college team and the other guy is clearly better than you and then you get taken ahead of that guy would be Xavier Worthy, who really was kind of the one at Texas.

All right, let's take a break. Let's take a break and we will finish the first round of the mock Zessler mark draft. Hey, oh, can you take me higher on the draft board?

I think lubing up the studio audience with some drinks was a good idea. Always slushed wild.

Give it up if you're sloshed right now. Wicked pissed. All right, where were we? We just heard 23. Now the unthinkable that the bills would go for Mister Mitchell out of Texas. So now it is the Cardinals, via the Minnesota Vikings, from Cleveland through Houston, yikes. All right, the Cardinals, what do they do?

Well, and these drunken Cardinals fans all up in arms that they took, you know, an offensive lineman and an edge. And where's this thing that we all want, a little fantasy play thing. So let's see what they do here.

Rise up, Red Sea. We're not done yet.

Gross.

With the 23rd pick in the NFL draft of the year 2024, the Arizona Cardinals, via Minnesota Vikings from Cleveland through Houston, pick Brian Thomas, wide receiver, LSU junior. Six, 4205 pounds. Come to us, Brian.

Come to us. I like how some, like, he's very important that he gets in the measurables there. He gets the height, weight.

I know why this happened. I sent him just at, because I have all that stuff here. I sent him the name and the measurements and, like, he also is injecting incredible Zumwalt energy there. But he was very meticulous.

Love this.

What a performer.

This would be exciting if you come away with three first round picks again, the tackle. That would be surprising to me, but lots to my favorite edge. Thomas, you know, I would give this an a. Give it an a to the, like, you'd have to.

We don't know. You know, I don't have a big problem with adding a great tackle in the draft at any, at any point next year.

We should see what else we could put on the page and see if jason just keeps reading on and on and on. I mean, hometown favorite food.

I think he's got genuine passion for the concept of these picks. You can feel it and especially their body.

First girlfriend. All right, up next, the 24th pick, it's the Miami Dolphins.

All right, the Dolphins, some overt needs on defense, and they love what's happened to them here. And Greg loves it, too, because it's attached to a sandwich related prop. They go, Johnny Newton, defensive lineman, Illinois.

Well, the listeners love it, too, because this was a rainmaker that Peter Schrager's tweet completely dismissed that he's getting taken by it.

So I would be selling Rosenthal v. Schrager Christopher set up here that I like.

No, it's just.

No, it's not. No, it's. Yes.

Well, according to these latest mock drafts, like, he has fallen out of a lot of these. And I'm sticking. I'm sticking with my guy. Sticking with my guy.

And so is Mark's playing to Greg a little bit, which is.

Well, no, but I don't agree that, like, I'm seeing no one else.

No, he's sort of all over the place where, like, some people have him in the top 15, some of them out of the top four.

Like you take Greg on the sandwich.

No, I was going to say I'm not. Cause I'm not. That's, it's, it shows no, um, internal fortitude to go back on the sandwich prop. I'll stick with it. But the more research I did on him after that conversation, I would not take Greg on it.

How about that foot injury? That's. It's a cons big man with a foot injury.

Yeah, but it's like, Oda, is that bad? Like, I don't know. It's like play. Some players are coming in with a couple weeks of, you know, availability questions, then they're awesome.

Jason would tell you that he's six foot, 2295 pounds. Bad foot for a big man. Look.

Yeah, you'd have to look into that.

As OJ once said, look out. All right. Number 25, the Green Bay packers. Staying home.

Yeah, they do. And they, you know, they take a Marius mems, offensive tackle out of Georgia. That's a need for them. Like, they can't mess around with that.

These sort, they're perfect for taking one of these kind of not project tackles, but guys that maybe you don't have to play them day one. There's a few of them at this part of the day draft. Tyler Guyton is another, which is crazy physical skills. Again, guys who I have a feeling if they were in either of the previous two drafts would have gotten taken much higher.

I believe that they will add a defensive player in the first round, but we'll see. Sure makes a lot of sense. Sure. To me. Finally starting over with a new DC, they need some more talent on that side of the ball. But obviously adding a tackle with high, high ceiling like a Marius mims makes sense. Number 26, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

I think the Bucks could go in a number of different. I kind of messed around with this pick a lot. What I have them doing. You know, they've lost a little bit of veteran presence in the secondary. They got Nate Wiggins, cornerback out of Clemson.

Mmm.

Todd Bowles still in control.

Lanky. Lanky, better or worse.

Six.

2185 traded away Carlton Davis. Certainly have a need.

Bills a need. And yes, Todd does have a loud voice in that room. Well, Todd never has a loud voice. Todd gets his message across, right.

Carry some weight.

Number 27, the Denver Broncos.

So the Broncos, you know, they kind of bailed on their, they were unable to fulfill their quest to move up for a quarterback. And I think the war room is a little down about the whole thing. The fan base is wondering if there's any vision for the future, but what's happened here is you could say there's some value. This is a quarterback with a lot of experience. Bo Nicks from Oregon falls right into the laps. Sean Payton's like, you know what? I like this because we absolutely needed a quarterback. And this is someone that kind of injects some future hope, gives Sean Payton something to work with and buys everyone a little bit of time.

I want to see Sean Payton with, like, an exciting quarterback, which Bonix doesn't really qualify as, but a lot of.

Those guys are gone.

Yeah. Though that would be six quarterbacks here in the first round. Always a little worrisome. If you get number six right, that's.

This feels like when you're reaching for a position rather than best player on the board has it.

Hasn't handled pressure necessarily very well, but, you know, not accurate.

That's not an issue in the NFL, though, because the game slows down from college to the pros. So I feel like Bo will do just fine. All right, next, the number 28 pick.

Mark it is the Eagles, and I think that Howie Roseman. This is just kismet. This seems to happen to them a lot on draft day. Graham Barton, one of the most versatile offensive linemen in a post. Jason Kelsey World can plug right into that line and be a nasty. He's from Duke. He's a senior, considered one of the most intelligent, smart dudes around. Like a pre snap genius. So you can plug right into that offense and get it going.

When he gets it, he gets it. I gotta give Mark credit. This is a marriage I have not seen predicted out there, and it just. It makes sense. Yeah, he nailed this one. He also nailed the 80 Mitchell Bills pick because that is the one pick him and Walker agreed with. On it.

There you go. Just coming together.

And rest assured, no matter who the Eagles pick, they will be universally lauded as incredible purveyors of talent and vision. Because the idea of the Eagles ever making the wrong decision, it's just impossible. So great job. Even though they haven't made the pick yet, whether it is this particular lineman, whoever it is, it could be a punter.

I love that.

For the Eagles, that is exactly what you will hear from all the football nerds.

Thank you for your op ed.

Have once again done it. They have seen what no one else can see. As you can see that lobby filled with Lombardi trophies. They have done it. So congratulations. Let me be the first to congratulate the Eagles on an amazing night. One of the draft. Put them on my winner. Listen, that's how you earn respect in the industry.

I mean, hit him with the Lombardi trophies. They have been to two Super Bowls and won one in the last six years. That's pretty good.

That's pretty good. Sure. I mean, six plus 51. Yeah, they. I'm just saying there's, there's one in the lobby.

Okay.

We treat them as if they're the, the eighties niners and nineties Cowboys and the two thousands Patriots rolled into one. My goodness. Great job. And now, now I'm gonna get buried by the. Let me tell you something else.

You are.

How about the Knicks? Your sixers.

Oh, here we go.

With Embiid with his head down in the locker room. Oh, I guarantee we're going to win this year. Pick your head up. Be a leader and a loser team.

I expect Philadelphia's multiple fan bases to respond to what you've just said over the last minute.

I acknowledge that, that now it feels personal.

Feels, felt from the first it had going on for a while.

It hadn't been truly personal until this moment. And now it is. Is so sorry, guys, but this is the way it is. Up next.

The Detroit Lions. And I've seen a couple like whispers that they're open to. You can't to trading out of this big. What are you talking about? The draft is in Detroit. You got to know how to lather and work this crowd. You can't, you're not passing on the front. And they do look at. They need it. They need help in the secondary and they've kind of needed it forever. But Kool aid McKinstry I have here from Alabama.

Right.

We trust those Alabama players. And I think that that organization will, too.

Closest thing you'll get to like an NFL team is that, that football machine down there.

I feel like this might be the pick the fewest people in the NFL mock draft community get right just because it's so late in the first round. And they just don't value players the same way that other teams do. They, they said that as much as press conference. They, they kind of. They. And they like it. And it's been working. I mean, Jack, Jack Campbell didn't exactly work so far, but Jamir Gibbs. Jack, can't I just look at where they took players last year? No one was seeing those coming do.

Sorry, your setup. There was what with the lines that they will do something.

No, no, there was there. I've just seen some like little things here and there.

That they would be ripe Koolaid out in Detroit. Is he gonna walk?

No, he's.

No, he's not there now.

They only. I don't think they're gonna take a guy that's not gonna walk.

Well, they're not.

They're not gonna get one of these guys or someone gonna get one down the board.

Whoever's there, whoever's left of that 14.

Darius Robinson is a strong in this scenario. He would still be on the board. He, he's the one that kind of stuck out as wise. Why is he there? Just cause he might have to wait through the first round.

I see where you go.

That would be if I could add a sandwich prop that the Lions will take a player that walks.

I mean, I'll allow it.

I would, too.

Hopefully.

Hopefully.

Our friend doing the site is this. Can we do it?

I don't know.

I want your sandwich.

Yeah, what the hell.

All right, good. I'm taking you up.

The Lions take a player that walks because they have eliminated their draft board.

This is going to be.

They narrowed it down to 14 player.

When we get to pick 29. All right.

It's a big deal for the Lions to host and they're not going to do the thing where. All right, now let's throw it live to satellite to, you know, Koolaid's house. Yeah. To San Jose. Like, no, they want the moment. They want the rog hug. They want the whole thing. And they have limited their draft board as a result.

That marries up with my theory that they're not trading out of the picture.

Is it smart? No, I think it's foolish, in fact, but it's about the celebration as much as anything else this year. Go ahead. All right.

Noted. Ravens at 30, they have a lot of different needs, but offensive line is one of them. And there's still got offensive lineman here. They take Tyler Guyton, tackle Oklahoma. Six, 7328. Slightly larger than the three of us put together in a, like a large burlap sack.

Like a large man.

I think that's savvy.

You like a big guy?

I do.

Yeah.

They need to start planning for a post. Ronnie Stanley, they have a lot of, lot of needs and had a lot of injuries in the offensive line. That makes sense. While we're here. Yes. There was some news. I'm not even going to call it breaking news.

Okay.

Noting that the Ravens just extended Rashad Bateman, their first round pick from a few years ago for a couple extra seasons. Little surprising, but that shows they believe.

Nicely done, Greg. Is co host here to hold off on sharing that until we get to the Ravens. So it's all part of one, it's all a greater hold.

That's seamless. Very nice production.

And that just looks bimbo.

All right, number 31.

All right, San Francisco 49 ers. Now, I, the one thing that I.

Almost did in this bimbo, we kind of lost bimbo. It's kind of gone. It had a nice run, though.

It's out there with beat it, which.

We bimbo come, comes into the mix every once in a while.

Now, I think that there's a world where Brandon Iuke could be traded and they move way up this board, but it was getting a little rich with all the business. So I had them staying home here, taking Chop RoBinson the edge from Penn State. And if you go back and look at. Because I was looking at Blake Lorem, a little bit like the game where Michigan played Penn State and ran the ball 30 times in a row at one point was because of chop Robinson blowing up the tackle position and causing all sorts of havoc largely because of that. And so they were like, we're just going to get back to 1920s basic football and destroy you up the middle.

Explosive trade, sky. That's what the 49 ers like. And they sneaky. Neat edge. It's a little surprising. Keep populating that a little bit around Bosa last year that they could go.

Tackle to maybe, but we'll see. I'm going edge here.

Makes all the sense in the world. Mark and the final pick of the first. And I think it's fitting. I think it's fitting given the absolute madness of acquisitions and moving up and down the board. We end with a trade.

Yeah. Like at some .4 teams will have owned the 32nd pick. It started with the Chiefs, then the Falcons, then the Seahawks. And now this happens. There has been a trade. The New England Patriots are now selecting.

32Nd and the pick is lad McConkie, wide receiver, Georgia. Okay, this is gonna be.

Spike can be stuffed.

That is troubling for our audio listeners.

Most people, Connor, or I believe under a Batman mask.

Yep.

With.

We're not for sure, but it seemed.

Like I presumed to be offspring with him in a spider man mask.

Yes, that was. That was confirmed. Offspring.

Thank you to Connor, Jason, Ricky, Hollywood, everyone that helped contribute to the picks.

Well done and well done by the Patriots. You know, you can take Belichick out of the building, but you can't take their appreciation for versatile white wide receivers.

You know, you have Drake May and lad McConkie. That takes the vanilla offense in the league and makes you think differently.

That's the. That's the opportunity that the Patriots have. The number 32 pick is a very popular trade pick because it's the last pick of the draft where you can lock in a player with that fifth year option, and that matters, Greggy, if you really love a guy.

Well, famously, Lamar Jackson with the second of the Ravens, two first round picks that year. They took Hayden Hurst.

I think they ordered those correctly.

Unbelievable. And, Mark, you are unbelievable. Now, we. I could. I could throw flowers at you. I could hand you a lollipop, but that doesn't. Why? Because the draft hasn't happened yet. So I. All I could say, and, greg, I think you would agree here, is Mark has done the work this spring, and he is. Whether or not he. He succeeds. Whether or not. You know, and again, apologies for. With Lance. We brought him on as a guest, and to hang up on you is just straight disrespectful. Processing that, Greg, bringing in a nine year old to challenge you directly, processing that, too. That. That feels like it's against the greater goal to lift you up. To lift up ATN.

Yes.

To give us a bigger platform. But I just want to say, great job, great work, and I hope that you set records this year. Thank you.

I.

You know, I understand the heat coming from outlets old and young, because I think they sense there's a little bit of danger here. There's a little bit of foundational rattling about to happen if this goes the way that I. That I know it would.

Yeah. And I just want you to know, you know, where. Where I come from, western Massachusetts, a lot of time, you show love by pinballs, you know, by just, like, mercilessly trying to take other people down. That's how we show.

But you have a certain way about you that maybe isn't a little different than some of the others in western Massachusetts.

You should come. Brutal.

No, I will not go. All right. Eric, how you doing back there? Behind the glass at doing great.

How are you guys?

Great work. I do want to point out that I was scheduled to announce the bills first round pick, but Mark totally left me out.

There was a trade.

Yeah, I did forget about that.

Would you like to.

No, I don't. I don't.

Okay.

I don't.

It was admitted the bill.

I was here. Out of the pen.

I was here. Thanks.

I'm just messing with you, Mark.

I really.

Okay, well, yes, that did slip the.

That slip a lot of elements in a show like this. Honestly, it's fine. I just. I had nothing to say. And sometimes it was ETP's chance to shine and that was, that was if.

You had nothing to say, then I made the correct decision in the end. So.

Love you, Mark. Anything else?

Not until we're back after round one.

Yes. Yeah. No live stream this year is what it is, and I'll say nothing more. But we do have the big show tomorrow night. Immediately at the end of round one, we will be recording our reaction to round one of the 2024 NFL draft. So make sure you are, you know, keep your phone in your hand, whatever device you use to, to ingest podcast, probably your phone. Just stare at it and then think. What, what do you think, eric, about we're going to try to get it up. About, I don't know. Let's see, the, the first round ends at about eleven eastern, something like that. We're going to want to have that up. What, you know, 3 hours later from the last pick. Figure would give us an hour to talk. Give me a little time to edit and post and. Yeah, I say before 3 hours. That's the goal.

Clock me.

That's the goal. Yeah. Actually, don't do that if it's late. Sorry. No, it's too late.

All right.

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